Clomid causing gyno

**boxer08** · 08-12-2013, 01:44 PM

Since i started my pct i have developed fatty tissue around the nipple area...no lump, tenderness, or itchy at the moment. This is my 5th day in to it. I'm guessing it's the clomid causing it ?? My pct is -

Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 I have also started ghrp-6 which was around 3 days before i started pct

**Bio-Active** · 08-12-2013, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by boxer08

Since i started my pct i have developed fatty tissue around the nipple area...no lump, tenderness, or itchy at the moment. This is my 5th day in to it. I'm guessing it's the clomid causing it ?? My pct is -

Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 I have also started ghrp-6 which was around 3 days before i started pct

I have never heard of Clomid causing gyno. What cycle compounds and doses did you run?

**boxer08** · 08-12-2013, 01:57 PM

Test e 250mg x 2 weekly for 12 weeks with 0.5mg of arimidex eod

**Bio-Active** · 08-12-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by boxer08

Test e 250mg x 2 weekly for 12 weeks with 0.5mg of arimidex eod

Did you run the Adex right up to pct? No hcg ?

**boxer08** · 08-12-2013, 02:06 PM

Run the adex right up to pct and used 250iu hcg 2 x weekly for 10 weeks, stopped it 2 weeks before the cycle ended

**Bio-Active** · 08-12-2013, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by boxer08

Run the adex right up to pct and used 250iu hcg 2 x weekly for 10 weeks, stopped it 2 weeks before the cycle ended

I don't think it's gyno. Gyno would hurt and or be sensitive

**boxer08** · 08-12-2013, 02:34 PM

Looks like fat, can even see it under the skin as a different colour

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-12-2013, 02:34 PM

No way. Not possible. Clomid can actually prevent gyno. While not as effective as tamox (which you are taking as well) or Ralox...it is effective at this. My guess is the GHRP6 has increased progesterone leading to increased puffiness/sensitivity - not gyno.

**boxer08** · 08-13-2013, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

No way. Not possible. Clomid can actually prevent gyno. While not as effective as tamox (which you are taking as well) or Ralox...it is effective at this. My guess is the GHRP6 has increased progesterone leading to increased puffiness/sensitivity - not gyno.

That's what i thought, the ghrp-6 has increased progesterone. I started a thread about the ghrp-6 increase the levels and would it be a good idea to use during pct but had no replies. I started the ghrp-6 for the increase in igf-1 levels that it's suppose to cause during pct and other reasons. Im thinking is it a good idea to use it or not now although it does seem to be working

**boxer08** · 08-14-2013, 07:14 AM

Bump ! Should i continue with the ghrp-6 or not

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-14-2013, 07:42 AM

I cant say whether you should continue with it or not I personally dont feel its gyno and when you cease the ghrp6 the progesterone will reduce, the puffiness will subside and all will be well, but Id hate for you to do that and then end up with an issue. If it were me as long as it remained as it was I would continue the ghrp, if you see any changes or formation of ANY type of lump obviously cease. Thats me. You must decide for yourself.

**kelkel** · 08-14-2013, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

No way. Not possible. Clomid can actually prevent gyno. While not as effective as tamox (which you are taking as well) or Ralox...it is effective at this. My guess is the GHRP6 has increased progesterone leading to increased puffiness/sensitivity - not gyno.

Yep. If I run G6 I get sensitive as well.

Op, I'd consider stopping. That way you may at least know it was in fact the G6 causing it. Just a thought...

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-14-2013, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Yep. If I run G6 I get sensitive as well.

Op, I'd consider stopping. That way you may at least know it was in fact the G6 causing it. Just a thought...

There you go OP. Good thinking kel and after reading it I agree 100%.

**boxer08** · 08-14-2013, 06:08 PM

I was just more worried about would the ghrp-6 decrease the recovery of the pct, if not then i will continue to use. It does just look like puffiness/fat nothing more. Should i run something for progesterone ? Im liking the effects of the peptide, i found it really difficult sleeping but since using it my sleep has been great plus other benefits but like i said will it make the clomid and nolva less effective for recovery that's my main concern. Cheers for the input

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-14-2013, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by boxer08

I was just more worried about would the ghrp-6 decrease the recovery of the pct, if not then i will continue to use. It does just look like puffiness/fat nothing more. Should i run something for progesterone ? Im liking the effects of the peptide, i found it really difficult sleeping but since using it my sleep has been great plus other benefits but like i said will it make the clomid and nolva less effective for recovery that's my main concern. Cheers for the input

There are no compounds I am aware of we can run to lower progesterone.

**austinite** · 08-14-2013, 06:50 PM

SPRM's (Selective Progesterone Receptor Modulators) Asoprisnil or "J867" is one. But from what I've heard, side effects are ridiculous.

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-14-2013, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

SPRM's (Selective Progesterone Receptor Modulators) Asoprisnil or "J867" is one. But from what I've heard, side effects are ridiculous.

Yeah there are actually a coupleI know of (mifepristone comes right to mind) but I dont even mention them for that very reason. It would be insane unless it were a medical matter of life and death to take them. They are used in women to try to manage cysts formation on the ovary as well as endometriosis.

**austinite** · 08-14-2013, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

Yeah there are actually a coupleI know of (mifepristone comes right to mind) but I dont even mention them for that very reason. It would be insane unless it were a medical matter of life and death to take them. They are used in women to try to manage cysts formation on the ovary as well as endometriosis.

Wholeheartedly agree.

**boxer08** · 08-15-2013, 06:26 AM

What about the effects on the clomid and nolva...will the peptide reduce those ? I was thinking of a anti prolactin not Progesterone, read that it incseases these levels

**boxer08** · 08-15-2013, 11:44 AM

Bump!

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-15-2013, 02:56 PM

I don't see the ghrp having any impact on the serms effectiveness whatsoever.

**boxer08** · 08-15-2013, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

I don't see the ghrp having any impact on the serms effectiveness whatsoever.

Okay just put my mind at rest

**Lemonada8** · 08-17-2013, 05:02 PM

GHRP-6 can potentially increase prolactin levels, which could easily attribute to the gyno you are describing. The increase isnt very much but it all depends on the person. Prolactin makes the ER on the breast tissue much more sensitive to estrogen, which allows it to be more responsive to less amounts of estrogen in the body.

you could either try GHRP-2 or even Ipamorelin, which are 2nd generation and 3rd generation of GHRP peptides ( GHRP-6 being first generation). Both of those dont have as strong as an effect on prolactin levels as GHRP6 does.

Prolactin does have an inhibitory effect on the pituitary and test production, but while taking SERMs in a pct setting it wouldnt have much effect but could prolong recovery. If you continue to notice these symptoms or they get worse ( lump formation, increased gyno, etc) I would def suggest prolonging your nolva a few weeks ( should be doin nolva longer than clomid anyways) and switch to a different GHRP compound.

**boxer08** · 08-18-2013, 06:38 PM

Im 15 days in to the ghrp-6 and 8 days in to pct, ill drop the ghrp-6 as i don't want to prolong recovery. It must be that causing the fat around the nipple area but there is no itching, lump or sorness. Im kinda gutted i have to stop the peptide as it's having amazing effects on my sleep and my joints feel a little better already not to mention the fullness in the muscle's. My pct plan is clom 100/50/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20 ill run the nolva for a extra 2 weeks at 20mg