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    first cycle pct plan after 12 weeks of test Enanthate

    Hi Everyone,

    This is my first cycle and ive read quite a bit about the test cycle and PCT plan and i was just wondering if the pros could weigh in on my plan, I have already started the test cycle and am in week 10 so please dont suggest changes to that, i am just looking for the perfect PCT plan.

    I am doing a 12 week testosterone Enanthate cyle, and my gonads have shrunk big time.

    I have already done the test and am in week 10 so please so not comment on the test dosage, just the PCT plan, thank you

    Test cycle for 12 weeks

    Week 1 Week 4 (4 weeks) 500 mg Test Enanthate
    Week 5 Week 12 (8 weeks) 600 mg Test Enanthate


    so my question is which pct should i follow:

    PCT cycle #1

    total time _ Quantity/Drug
    (10 days) - 500iu hcg every day
    (2 weeks) - 40mg nolva every day
    (2 weeks) - 20mg nolva every day
    (1 week) - 20mg nolva every day




    PCT cycle #2

    total time _ Quantity/Drug
    (10 days) - 500iu hcg every day
    (week 1) - 40mg nolva every day and 50mg clomid every day
    (week 2) - 20mg nolva every day and 50mg clomid every day
    (week 3 and 4) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day


    thank you sooo much everyone, btw i have access to nolva clomid and hcg so if you make adjustments, please try to use variations of these products

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    Hcg needs to be run during your cycle to maintain testicular function not during pct. Serms got pct Clomid and nolvadex . You need an AI for on cycle to keep estrogen under control to

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Hcg needs to be run during your cycle to maintain testicular function not during pct. Serms got pct Clomid and nolvadex. You need an AI for on cycle to keep estrogen under control to
    i know bro but its too late im in week 11 of 12.....can you please offer a suggestion based on that?

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    You will either need to run your pct without the hcg since it is counter productive or look up the power pct and run that

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    You will either need to run your pct without the hcg since it is counter productive or look up the power pct and run that

    you know i did look at the power pct but that just looks like an excessive amount of hcg , in fact when i read more about hcg it seems like it may even cause harm at levels that high and thats the only place that says to use that high of an amount

    do you really think my PCT cycle #2 is that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awchristler
    you know i did look at the power pct but that just looks like an excessive amount of hcg, in fact when i read more about hcg it seems like it may even cause harm at levels that high and thats the only place that says to use that high of an amount do you really think my PCT cycle #2 is that bad?
    no it's not that bad. Only you will know if your testies are responding to that dose of hcg but you have to keep in mind that lh production will stay suppressed during the administration if the hcg. You should extend the pct at least 2 more weeks if you are considering going that route. I have also heard a few people having success with the power pct hcg doses cut in half
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    no it's not that bad. Only you will know if your testies are responding to that dose of hcg but you have to keep in mind that lh production will stay suppressed during the administration if the hcg. You should extend the pct at least 2 more weeks if you are considering going that route. I have also heard a few people having success with the power pct hcg doses cut in half
    ok thank you, i really value your input, so how about this then:

    PCT cycle #2

    total time _ Quantity/Drug
    (10 days) - 1000 iu hcg every day
    (week 1 and 2) - 40mg nolva every day and 50mg clomid every day
    (week 3 and 4) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day
    (week 5 and 6) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day
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    Since you are in week ten now why not start running your hcg now? That would give you 4 weeks of hcg before starting pct. Don't know why I didn't catch that sooner

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Since you are in week ten now why not start running your hcg now? That would give you 4 weeks of hcg before starting pct. Don't know why I didn't catch that sooner
    well i would but i have to put the order in and its gonna take a week or so for buddy to get it, sorry...i really keep hating to do this but again the pct is gonna havta be similar to the one i outlined

    so can you tweak this one?

    PCT cycle #2

    total time _ Quantity/Drug
    (10 days) - 1000 iu hcg every day
    (week 1 and 2) - 40mg nolva every day and 50mg clomid every day
    (week 3 and 4) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day
    (week 5 and 6) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by awchristler View Post
    well i would but i have to put the order in and its gonna take a week or so for buddy to get it, sorry...i really keep hating to do this but again the pct is gonna havta be similar to the one i outlined

    so can you tweak this one?

    PCT cycle #2

    total time _ Quantity/Drug
    (10 days) - 1000 iu hcg every day
    (week 1 and 2) - 40mg nolva every day and 50mg clomid every day Bump the clomid to 100 first week
    (week 3 and 4) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day Bump the clomid to 50 ed both weeks
    (week 5 and 6) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day
    Drop the clomid after 4 weeks and finish the last 2 weeks nolva only
    See comments in bold above

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Drop the clomid after 4 weeks and finish the last 2 weeks nolva only
    See comments in bold above
    ok bro thanks i think that will work out just fine...thanks for all your help and pointing me to the power pct program

    oh forgot to mention that Jim......your the freakin man bro!..u always got something awesome to teach us newbies
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Drop the clomid after 4 weeks and finish the last 2 weeks nolva only
    See comments in bold above
    Jim im thinking of bumping up the hcg as well to 15 days at 1000 ui a day so it would look like this:

    total time _ Quantity/Drug
    (15 days) - 1000 iu hcg every day
    (week 1 and 2) - 40mg nolva every day and 50mg clomid every day Bump the clomid to 100 first week
    (week 3 and 4) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day Bump the clomid to 50 ed both weeks
    (week 5 and 6) - 20mg nolva every day and 25mg clomid every day

    do you think i should leave it? im just comparing it to the power pct thing you told me about...thanks

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    Leave it and stick with the plan we discussed earlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Leave it and stick with the plan we discussed earlier

    alright boss....really appreciate this, so now that im doing this "unique" pct when do i start it? here is what i can figure out so far, please let me know if its right:


    WEEK------test enanthate -------------HCG ----------------------------Nolvadex ----------Clomid

    12-----------600mg test E

    13--------------------------------1X ED (7 days)-----1000 IU

    14--------------------------------1X ED (3 days)-----1000 IU

    15--------------------------------------------------------------------40mg/Day--------100mg/day

    16--------------------------------------------------------------------40mg/Day--------50mg/day

    17--------------------------------------------------------------------20mg/Day--------50mg/day

    18--------------------------------------------------------------------20mg/Day--------50mg/day

    19--------------------------------------------------------------------20mg/Day

    20--------------------------------------------------------------------20mg/Day
    Last edited by awchristler; 09-27-2013 at 11:33 AM.

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    Looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Looks good
    awesome, knowledge is power and i thank you sincerely for giving me the power... have a great weekend bro!.. btw you are jakked

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