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    Gyno help pls

    Hi friends. i run 700mg testosteron mix and 500mg Trenbolone Enantad (Every W.)
    and also i take every other day 0.625mg Letro (4/1) and 1.25mg Bromokriptin (Cabaser for prolaktin)
    , now i am on 5.week


    But now i feel my right nipple. i am afraid of gynocomastia. because i had a gyno story and i had 2 operation about this. So now what do you think about this? i have to stop my cycle or what??

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    i have to take nolva with letro or letro every day??

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    What are your stats?

    What week cycle are you in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    What are your stats?

    What week cycle are you in?

    i want to make 10 or 12 weeks. now i am on 5. week

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    How old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    How old are you?
    i am 33 . about 10 years i am training and i am 85 kg.

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    Does your nipple hurt?

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    I'd get blood test ASAP and stop the guessing game.
    Estrogen / prolactin to be more specific. Lets start from there.

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    You could opt for Nov @ 40 mgs a day for a week then drop to 20 mgs a day for remainder of the cycle. I have tried this and it worked quite well. Have also tried letro but feel it's too harsh and really hampers with the remainder of the cycle while nov may have take a little longer to work, it didn't wreck the rest of the cycle.

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    thanks bro. You mean 40 mg Nov-Nolvadex ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by umittt View Post
    thanks bro. You mean 40 mg Nov-Nolvadex?
    Yes, Nov = nolvadex @ 40 mgs.

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    and i have to use Letro and 20mg Nolva to last of cycle? How much letro and how long ? And how can i combine Pct for this cycle? Thanks

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    I can't advise you on running both letro and nov together. I had a similar problem on cycle and was advised to follow the nov protocol that I posted up earlier and follow it right into pct. Once Pct starts just stay at 20 mgs.seeing how there is no need to frontload at that point. I ran clomid and nov for pct @ clo: 100/100/50/50 and nov:20/20/20/20/20. This worked well for me and wouldn't use letro again, personally I found it to harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umittt
    and i have to use Letro and 20mg Nolva to last of cycle? How much letro and how long ? And how can i combine Pct for this cycle? Thanks
    You wouldn't run Letro during your pct and you need to be carful on cycle running it. Letro is very powerful and could crush your estrogen levels
    Last edited by Bio-Active; 10-10-2013 at 09:22 AM.

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    and i need HCG in Pct for this cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by umittt
    and i need HCG in Pct for this cycle?
    You should be running hcg during your cycle not during pct. during pct is counter productive

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    You should be running hcg during your cycle not during pct. during pct is counter productive
    I know that i need Hcg for Pct. Can you give me more info about this please. i got 1500iu Hcg on hands now.

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    You don't need hcg for pct that would be counter productive as it would keep your lh production suppressed. How many weeks do you have left in your current cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    You don't need hcg for pct that would be counter productive as it would keep your lh production suppressed. How many weeks do you have left in your current cycle?
    now i have 6 weeks, and today found 2 x 5000 iu pregnyl
    Last edited by umittt; 10-12-2013 at 04:53 AM.

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    If you started running your hcg now you could run it for 8 weeks right into pct. that should be plenty

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    If you started running your hcg now you could run it for 8 weeks right into pct. that should be plenty
    i didnt started Hcg . i ask if i use its good for me now or not?

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    Let me rephrase my statement. Start your hcg now. Run it at 250 iu 2 x ew from NOW right up to 3 days prior to starting pct. if you are runninga twelve week cycle that will give you 8 weeks to run the hcg. Or are you coming off cycle now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Let me rephrase my statement. Start your hcg now. Run it at 250 iu 2 x ew from NOW right up to 3 days prior to starting pct. if you are runninga twelve week cycle that will give you 8 weeks to run the hcg. Or are you coming off cycle now?
    Ok friend, today i started 250iu HCG . i will make it 2 x ew. to pct. and also i use 20mg nolva . i had now 8 weeks of cycle.

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    Are you using nolvadex for the gyno? Are you running an AI along side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Are you using nolvadex for the gyno? Are you running an AI along side?
    yes im using nolva 20mg e.d and letro 4/1 e.o.d and now 250iu Hcg 2 times in a week. and now my cycle 400 tren e. and 600-700 test. mix . i got 8 weeks to pct

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    How much letro are you running... 4/1 doesn't tell us how many mg's and have the gyno symptoms subsided?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    How much letro are you running... 4/1 doesn't tell us how many mg's and have the gyno symptoms subsided?
    0.625mg e.d.o letro. yes now gyno symptomps

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    Dear friends today i had blood test. My results

    my results referances
    Estradiol 50 20-47
    Testest. 16.57 1.75-7.81
    Prolaktin 0.83 2.64-13.3

    What do u think about this?

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    How are the gyno symptoms? Estro looks like it's almost in range now

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    How are the gyno symptoms? Estro looks like it's almost in range now
    i still feel my right nipple. so i want to take letro e.d 0.6mg. i am afraid gyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umittt
    i still feel my right nipple. so i want to take letro e.d 0.6mg. i am afraid gyno.
    well wih your e barely out of range it shouldn't take much. I have seen people use .25 e3d

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    dear friends, now i run everday half letro, and 10 mg nolva , 750 testo + 500 Trenbolone .I have 4 weeks to end of cycle. for several weeks i have lipido and erect problem. what i have to do?

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    You have crushed your estrogen

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    so what should I do now?

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