PCT for PH (DS) is SERM needed?

**rocky919** · 12-06-2013, 01:41 PM

Hey I have been bodybuilding for 5 years now been dying to go on a cycle and waited it out until now that I am 21. Since I've been reading on cycles I've gathered a large amount of information but some of it is conflicting so I thought I'd ask for the opinions on the inter web and then visit my doctor afterwards to double check. Without further ado.

I am going to cycle:
PH:
-Extreme Mass, Anabolic Technologies
-Halo-V Halodrol, Vital Labs

OCS:
-Blockade On Cycle Defense, Assault Labs

PCT(so far):
-AD-3 PCT, Lacheek nutrition
-Post Cycle 3x, Vital Labs

I have two questions on my PCT, one would be the obvious do I need a SERM? I have gotten two different answers of yes you do, and no you don't for this type of stack. I understand what a SERM is used for and what it does however it seems Nolvadex and Clomid is not available to me yet so I'd have to wait to start my cycle. Question two would be is an 'all in one' PCT any good or should I just buy the ingredients separately?

Any answers or feedback is much appreciated, thanks!

**Bio-Active** · 12-06-2013, 02:07 PM

You should really reconsider what your about to do. Pro hormones will shut down your natty test production. Without running test as a base it will leave you with low testosterone and all the sides that come with it. All that over the counter pct stuff us a waste and yes you need real serms for pct. Nolvadex and Clomid. I suggest you do more research and out together a better cycle when your ready

**rocky919** · 12-06-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

You should really reconsider what your about to do. Pro hormones will shut down your natty test production. Without running test as a base it will leave you with low testosterone and all the sides that come with it. All that over the counter pct stuff us a waste and yes you need real serms for pct. Nolvadex and Clomid. I suggest you do more research and out together a better cycle when your ready

Will anabolic steroids not shut down my natty test production as well? I'll definitely do more research on PH's and anablolics but I am looking to run a cycle soon, not going to jump the gun by any means.

However I will take your advice and hold off until I do understand every single component. Just wondering, designer steroid vs pure steroids?

**Bio-Active** · 12-06-2013, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by rocky919

Will anabolic steroids not shut down my natty test production as well? I'll definitely do more research on PH's and anablolics but I am looking to run a cycle soon, not going to jump the gun by any means.

However I will take your advice and hold off until I do understand every single component. Just wondering, designer steroid vs pure steroids?

Yes they will but if you run test as a base it replaces the fact that you are suppressed eliminating the low t symptoms

**bass** · 12-06-2013, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by rocky919

Hey I have been bodybuilding for 5 years now been dying to go on a cycle and waited it out until now that I am 21. Since I've been reading on cycles I've gathered a large amount of information but some of it is conflicting so I thought I'd ask for the opinions on the inter web and then visit my doctor afterwards to double check. Without further ado.

I am going to cycle:
PH:
-Extreme Mass, Anabolic Technologies
-Halo-V Halodrol, Vital Labs

OCS:
-Blockade On Cycle Defense, Assault Labs

PCT(so far):
-AD-3 PCT, Lacheek nutrition
-Post Cycle 3x, Vital Labs

I have two questions on my PCT, one would be the obvious do I need a SERM? I have gotten two different answers of yes you do, and no you don't for this type of stack. I understand what a SERM is used for and what it does however it seems Nolvadex and Clomid is not available to me yet so I'd have to wait to start my cycle. Question two would be is an 'all in one' PCT any good or should I just buy the ingredients separately?

Any answers or feedback is much appreciated, thanks!

what were you reading to come up with this plan? listen to Jimmy, you can seriously damage yourself if you continue.

find out why.

The Young and Steroids

and you will need this when you are 25-30 years old if you continue,

Finding a TRT Physician

this is what you need to be doing now,

So you wanna learn how to Diet?