What can I use instead of nolvadex&clomid in PCT due to eye disease?

**Dano89** · 12-14-2013, 04:06 AM

I was wondering what kind of stuff will I need to take in my PCT instead of novaldex and clomid.
I've got Kerataconus on both of my eyes, and just a few days ago I had crosslinking on my left eye to stop the progress of the disease.

I ask the doc and looks like its not a problem to inject test and use armidex.
but about the PCT, because the novaldex and clomid is doing corneal changes it could worsen my disease.

what would you suggest me to use in PCT instead? or if I can't use novaldex and armidex so I shouldn't even bother doing a cycle?

or maybe I should have both in hand and try only nolvadex pct and see how I reacts, if something is wrong I could switch to clomid, but what if both will worsen my disease? what will I do then?

**Bio-Active** · 12-14-2013, 06:53 AM

Have you researched torem?

**Dano89** · 12-14-2013, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Have you researched torem?

I just did, it has data on dru*gs dot com
and looks like it has no problems with the eyes.
what are the suggest doesage in PCT for the following FIRST cycle:
500mg ew - week 1-12
armidex .25 EOD (will increase/decrease as needed)- week 1-14

**Bio-Active** · 12-14-2013, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Dano89

I just did, it has data on dru*gs dot com
and looks like it has no problems with the eyes.
what are the suggest doesage in PCT for the following FIRST cycle:
500mg ew - week 1-12
armidex .25 EOD (will increase/decrease as needed)- week 1-14

Since you have already spoke to your md regarding this have you considered discussing with him?

**Dano89** · 12-14-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Since you have already spoke to your md regarding this have you considered discussing with him?

I will ask him about the toremifene.
Just asking about the dosage for PCT.

**Bio-Active** · 12-14-2013, 09:45 AM

Torem 120/60/60/60 would be pretty standard

**Dano89** · 12-14-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Torem 120/60/60/60 would be pretty standard

Thanks will try to put my hand on some Toremifene.
looks like it has no sides like clomid&nolva on the Cornea, exactly what I need since I don't wanna hurt my eyes.

**Dano89** · 12-15-2013, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Dano89

Thanks will try to put my hand on some Toremifene.
looks like it has no sides like clomid&nolva on the Cornea, exactly what I need since I don't wanna hurt my eyes.

Unfortunatly my source cant get Toremifene.. so its useless to ask the doc about it..
is it possible to use AI during PCT? or its useless and I shouldn't bother doing cycle withouts SERM's?

**Bio-Active** · 12-15-2013, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Dano89

Unfortunatly my source cant get Toremifene.. so its useless to ask the doc about it..
is it possible to use AI during PCT? or its useless and I shouldn't bother doing cycle withouts SERM's?

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**NaijaBoy** · 12-18-2013, 02:22 AM

Personally I think you should save your money and not do any gear AT THIS TIME. Focus on your condition, continue to exercise properly and eat healthy. You can worry about gear in the future. You only have 2 eyes and no PCT can replace that.