PCT After 6month cycle

[kawizx10]

Hey All

been a while since i have been on this site.
I know stats first.

40yrs old
5ft 9
210lbs
12-13ish % BF
Training 5yrs consistant
training on and off for 20yrs.
6-7 cycles.

Last cycle was a nightmare. Gear went from good to fake, and then i switched labs. so i extended it rather then stop and hit pct.

cycle looked something like this

week 1-10 tren A @ 75mg eod
week 1-12 test P @ 100mg eod

I then drop that lab and went with this

week 11ish - 34 Sust @ 250mg 2x week
week 11ish - 32 Tren E @ 100mg 2x week

NO HCG was used. NO A-dex was used

I am 3weeks since last shot and i have the following for PCT. A-dex, Clomid, Nolve

Should i run PCT with Adex ?

week 1-4 clomid 100/100/50/50
week 1-4 Adex .25/.25/.25/.25
Week 1-4 Nolva 20/20/20/20

[Bio-Active]

Yikes pct is more than likely going to be a very bumpy ride. No ai during pct that's what your serms are for. I suggest you either run the power pct or consider staying on the test at a low dose for 4-6 weeks longer with running hcg along side to get the testies firing again. Either way you are going to need hcg nolvadex and Clomid

[kelkel]

That about sums it up. ^^

[kawizx10]

Hey There jim

what is the power pct ?

[Bio-Active]

Hey There jim

what is the power pct ?

START ALL ON THE SAME DAY
1250iu eod 8shots/16days
100mg clomid ed x 7days then...
50mg clomid x 21 days
20mg nolvadex/tamox x 45 days

above is the power pct, the only difference is the hcg is halfed from the 2500iu dose they use, the reason i use half hcg dose is b/c i use hcg in small doses during cycle so the spark is always there and id find 2500iu to much

[kawizx10]

thanks for the advice. appreciate it.
Just to be clear i am going to run HCG with clomid and nolva ?

I thought running HCG after your cycle was not good, and even worse to run it with clomid ?

[Bio-Active]

thanks for the advice. appreciate it. Just to be clear i am going to run HCG with clomid and nolva ? I thought running HCG after your cycle was not good, and even worse to run it with clomid ?

after a normal10-12 week cycle it would be a poor choice because it will continue to suppress lh function but after being on for a long period of time you are more than likely suffering from testicular disfunction and it's more important to get the testies firing again

[kawizx10]

stupid dumb ass moroic move on my part is i have HCG at home, its been sitting there for 3years and i have never once used it knowing that HCG makes getting norm so much easier.
YUP i am a total dumb ass....

I will watch some video on how to mix the HCGand what 1250ius would be in a syringe and start this tonight...

I know that 12 week cycles are the norm, but time and time again i have tried 12 week cycles and find that my body only notices after 2+ months. Even on short ester gear.
This is my second time doing a extended cycle. Last cycle i bounced back with NO PCT. I used D-spartic acid and kept a really good diet.

Thank you for the help

[Bio-Active]

Just remember in the future the importance of hcg and if you do choose to cycle again include it

[kawizx10]

Been reading up on using the hcg. More of how to mix the water and the powder. Being this is my first go with hcg I'm just a little confused with measurements and injection sites.

I have 3x5000units of powder
3x5ml water.

I want to use my 23g 1.5" needle and inject in the glute and shoulders.

[Bio-Active]

Been reading up on using the hcg. More of how to mix the water and the powder. Being this is my first go with hcg I'm just a little confused with measurements and injection sites.

I have 3x5000units of powder
3x5ml water.

I want to use my 23g 1.5" needle and inject in the glute and shoulders.

Ouch use an insulin syiringe. You you can it sub Q. Add 2 ml of water and then pulling the pin back to the 10 will give you 250 iu

[kawizx10]

I would rather stick to IM I have never used an insulin needle and don't have any.

Am I good to go with the glute shot using the 1.5" 26g?
And if add 5ml of water to the 5000iu hcg will that give me 1000iu per 1ml/cc?

[Bio-Active]

I would rather stick to IM I have never used an insulin needle and don't have any.

Am I good to go with the glute shot using the 1.5" 26g?
And if add 5ml of water to the 5000iu hcg will that give me 1000iu per 1ml/cc?

If you really want to go that way then i would add 10cc of bac water making each cc 500 iu or 1/2 cc 250 iu

[kawizx10]

Odd as it sounds I just feel more comfy with the IM shot and I'm ok with the 1.5" I always use.

Going by your "power pct" using 1250iu eod. If I add 5ML of bacc water will that make 1000iu per cc?

Seriously thank you for helping me with this....

[Bio-Active]

Odd as it sounds I just feel more comfy with the IM shot and I'm ok with the 1.5" I always use.

Going by your "power pct" using 1250iu eod. If I add 5ML of bacc water will that make 1000iu per cc?

Seriously thank you for helping me with this....

Gotcha no it would make it 500 per cc. So if you want it at 1000 per cc then you had it right add 5 cc of bac water and each cc would equal 1000 iu

[kawizx10]

I'm good to go. Going to get this in my ass now .
Kind of freaked out about all the info I have read on hcg.
Seems there is a real sweet spot between to much and not enough. To much can cause real permanent damage.

I have already checked into this, and seems its still ok. But your thoughts on this.

The expire date on my hcg was June 2012

[Bio-Active]

As long as you have stored it properly its fine

[kawizx10]

It's been in my dresser drawer this whole time

[Bio-Active]

It should be ok. I always store mine in the fridge but I have never kept it around that long either. It hasn't been reconstituted right?

[anon99]

Last cycle i bounced back with NO PCT. I used D-spartic acid and kept a really good diet.

What did you run on that cycle and how long?

[Bio-Active]

What did you run on that cycle and how long?

I am pretty sure it's all listed in his opening post?

[20YO]

I dont see why you wouldnt use an ai, alongside the serms for pct. it increases your test and lowers your e2 (both obviously desirable) and has a completely separate and distinct mechanism of action from the serms.

[Bio-Active]

An ai is only going to increase test in the event that excess test is automatizing to estrogen. If your estrogen has already been kept in check during your cycle there is no need.