FORM XT Aromatase Inhibitor Cycle (stand alone)

**austin2012** · 01-26-2014, 06:30 PM

Hi all,
I am considering running a cycle of LG's FORM XT (the new version of its predecessor 'Formadrol'). Form XT is an aromatase inhibitor/anti-estrogen.

I have not done an AAS or prohormone cycle, but have heard that if Form XT is used in conjunction with normal workout routines it would, ostensibly, provide some benefit as a stand alone supplement.

My primary question here would be that if I did a 4 week cycle of Form XT, which would lower my testosterone to estrogen conversion, would by estrogen shoot up dramatically when I stop the supplement because my body reacts to the low estrogen and compensates?

Thanks for any help in advance,

Austin

**Bio-Active** · 01-26-2014, 06:49 PM

There is no reason to take an ai if you are not on cycle

**austin2012** · 01-26-2014, 06:53 PM

I understand that, but some people have higher levels of estrogen than others. I have had 3 blood panels done over a period of 5 months. My estrogen level is, consistently, 27 (higher level of range) while my test levels were 298, 373, and now 452.

(I attribute the steady test increases to vitamin D/mangesium/zinc at high doses once per day)

**Bio-Active** · 01-26-2014, 06:56 PM

A test level at 452 and estro at 27 is a very good range. I wouldn't mess with it. good job getting those levels up

**austin2012** · 01-26-2014, 08:04 PM

Test 452 is still very low. Bear in mind I am just under 21, which is young for such low levels. My goal is around 600-700.

**Bio-Active** · 01-26-2014, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by austin2012

Test 452 is still very low. Bear in mind I am just under 21, which is young for such low levels. My goal is around 600-700.

using an AI isn't going to accomplish that if anything a real AI is going to crash your estrogen leaving you feeling terrible. Did you run your t levels within 2 hrs of waking?

**kelkel** · 01-26-2014, 09:10 PM

Jim is correct.

Doesn't matter what your total test level is. What's your free T level and range? Your answer is not with estrogen control. Full BW may lead you to other areas that may be contributing to what you consider "lower" T levels.

**OdinsOtherSon** · 01-26-2014, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Jim is correct.

Doesn't matter what your total test level is. What's your free T level and range? Your answer is not with estrogen control. Full BW may lead you to other areas that may be contributing to what you consider "lower" T levels.

This. I have an 18yr old step son who has "low T" and has been administered Test. Thing is, he also has a severe thyroid issue. He was, at one point, in a full thyroid storm. The docs are now seriously considering removing it due to his med's inability to stave off the enlargement. No doubt that is a significant contributor to his low T issue.

**austin2012** · 01-27-2014, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon

This. I have an 18yr old step son who has "low T" and has been administered Test. Thing is, he also has a severe thyroid issue. He was, at one point, in a full thyroid storm. The docs are now seriously considering removing it due to his med's inability to stave off the enlargement. No doubt that is a significant contributor to his low T issue.

Thank you for you reply.

Its FORM XT, so Its technically not a prescription grade AI. My logic was that it would be effective enough to have a cutting effect, but mild enough that it would not lower my total estrogen levels pasy, maybe, 22-23 out of a starting point of 27. After the cycle it would re-balance to 27 range again.

My free test is "average" ( I would have to pull up blood work and check again for exact #s).

**austin2012** · 01-27-2014, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Jim is correct.

Doesn't matter what your total test level is. What's your free T level and range? Your answer is not with estrogen control. Full BW may lead you to other areas that may be contributing to what you consider "lower" T levels.

OK here are is my full blood panel.

Estradiol: 27
Testosterone : 451
Free Testosterone: 129
Test Range: 300.0-1080.0 ng/dL
Free Test Range: 47.0-244.0 pg/mL

I am concerned with these levels, as they are indeed low for someone who is 20. As a result, I think Formadrol XT as a light aromatase inhibitor OTC might be beneficial.

Thanks in advance.

**Bio-Active** · 01-27-2014, 07:58 PM

your free test looks good and estrogen is within range. Leave it alone is my opinion hit the nutrition forum and dial in your diet. Food timing with friendly fats may get your total t levels higher as well

**kelkel** · 01-27-2014, 10:16 PM

Many things can effect T levels. Hypothyroid, cortisol, prolactin, adenomas, pathologies, trauma. Not even close to full BW to properly assess it austin.

**austin2012** · 01-27-2014, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Many things can effect T levels. Hypothyroid, cortisol, prolactin, adenomas, pathologies, trauma. Not even close to full BW to properly assess it austin.

I am hypothyroid, but on medication. My TSH and TS4 are normal.
My IGF-1 is also normal (and in the 70+ percentile range, which would indicate normal HGH production.