Clomid worries

**vikingblood** · 01-25-2013, 06:52 PM

Hi everyone

So the cycle I plan on running calls for clomid and nolva as a pct. After reading a lot of nasty sides from clomid I am not sure I want to run it. Does anyone have an idea of a good sub. I just plan on running test e at 500 a week for 12 weeks with hcg and a AI. Thanks

**Stosh_112** · 01-25-2013, 07:16 PM

U can do just fine running a low dose clomid @ 50,50,25,25 Then Nolva 40,40,20,20,20. Some say u can just run nolva, but its suggest to run 6 wks.

**Lemonada8** · 01-25-2013, 07:16 PM

clomid is best for PCT, IMO... but for a simple test cycle and using HCG and AI on cycle.. tamox only or a tamox/tore combo may work

**kelkel** · 01-25-2013, 07:24 PM

Ok. You're about to run 500mg test and your worried about clomid? I understand the sides and the vision problem statement is scary, but you will be running it lower dose and short term. You'll be fine with it. If you read the side effects to vit c you may never take it and hell, if aspirin was just now developed it would be a controlled substance.

In otherwords, you'll be fine with it, IMHO. Glad to see your cycle is test only with an ai and hcg . It's a good start.

**MuscleInk** · 01-25-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Ok. You're about to run 500mg test and your worried about clomid? I understand the sides and the vision problem statement is scary, but you will be running it lower dose and short term. You'll be fine with it. If you read the side effects to vit c you may never take it and hell, if aspirin was just now developed it would be a controlled substance.

In otherwords, you'll be fine with it, IMHO. Glad to see your cycle is test only with an ai and hcg. It's a good start.

^^^ There's your answer! Run clomiphene with tamoxifen for PCT. You'll survive.

.....and Kel, if your back gets any bigger you're going to need panoramic photos to capture it all in a pic!!!!!!!

**kelkel** · 01-25-2013, 07:53 PM

Thanks MI. My old butt is still trying....

**MuscleInk** · 01-25-2013, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Thanks MI. My old butt is still trying....

I'm sure you look better than most guys half your age - which is why the noobs NEED to listen to guys like you that have succeeded.

Keep up the awesome work!

**vikingblood** · 01-25-2013, 11:31 PM

So this is the cycle I was going to run, I got it from the beginner forum since this is my first cycle. I am still neverous about it but I think I will do fine. The only thing I am unclear about is the results I could get. I am a Crossfitter and want to compete but I am behind the power curve, I need more strength and endurance. Will this cycle help my endurance at all, I know I will again strength, I dont jst Crossfit, fyi. I lift every morning and Crossfit in the PM after work. So I do lift heavy but I just dont make huge gains, I eat very good I think. Anyway just curious what all you guys think, I have asked this before but only got a few responses. Please feel free to let me know anything you think, I think the cyclehs more clomid than I need, opinions? Thanks

Option 1. Long Ester

Wk 1-10 Testosterone Cypionate = 200mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-10 Arimidex .25mg eod – monitor and adjust accordingly.
Wk 1- 12.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection.

PCT
Begins wk 13 to wk 17

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

**PrideR** · 01-26-2013, 03:54 AM

i just got the worse acne on clomid but it restored my test.

**vikingblood** · 02-01-2014, 05:49 PM

so I never ended up running this, my source fell through but I am glad. I dont think I was ready, I am now and I have a new source. I am going to start out with this, do you think this is too much for a first cycle. I am going to be Crossfitting only. Well we I do one strength piece a day IE: heavy Deads, Back squat, Snatch....etc. so will this be too much. I am still mainly looking to increase my work capacity. I want my cardio and endurance to go up.

Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)