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    try nolva n clomid to help ed

    I was on test c for three years with out much of a break. I never used hcg ,aI's, or did a pct. Ive had pretty much sever ed problems since coming off. while even using ed pills won't help with getting an erection. It's almost impossible to get an erection period. It's been about almost two years since I've been on anything. Anyhow what are any thoughts on try to do some type of pct. All labs have all came back normal n in General I'm really healthy.

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    Go and run labs to see what's going on with your hormones. After 2 years I would think you would gave recovered but labs will be the only way to determine what is going on. Get a full hormone panel run

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    How old are you and how long has it been with ED problems? Not all ED is curable but is treatable.

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    I will certainly do that. Thanks I do know just previously going to my endo he said my estradiol was a lil higher than he'd like to see it. It was at 35 high being 39. He prescribed me letrozole an has me taking 2.5 mg once a week. Supposed to up to a couple times a week as I progress taking it. I have noticed joint n muscle pain but no other good sides.

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    I'm 37 an have had this problem for a lil over two years now. Also cialis worked for awhile at 5 mg. Until recently n the cialis hasn't really helped at all. I've also have had the penis injections which the first time the doc gave it to me gave me a boner like I was a highschooler again. I have some samples of my own of the injections. I took a shot last week an got a serious boner for about 30 seconds n then it was gone as fast as it came on.

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    Did your endo run your other hormone panels? Testosterone levels ?

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    Have you considered also psychological causes besides just physiological? If Trimix didn't work for you that is saying a lot. Could be either or, or even a combination of both. Can you also post the lab results you do have?

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    Yeah I've had pretty much everything ran, test, lipids,prolactin I'm pretty I've had full hormone panels already ran. Everything thing has all been well within normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhonda
    Yeah I've had pretty much everything ran, test, lipids,prolactin I'm pretty I've had full hormone panels already ran. Everything thing has all been well within normal.
    well that's good. The elevated estrogen could be part of it. What was your estro and what were your test levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    Have you considered also psychological causes besides just physiological? If Trimix didn't work for you that is saying a lot. Could be either or, or even a combination of both. Can you also post the lab results you do have?
    This. As powerful as these pde5 inhibitors are they cannot overcome psychological issues in many cases. The mind is a powerful thing that can even overwhelm physiological response even when enhanced pharmacologically.

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    Test levels were in the mid 500 range , n my estradiol was 35 I believe 39 was on the high side for my level.

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    I totally agree with you on the physiological part as well. I often wonder if that is a big part of my problem. As to there are times were can perform on my own but this certainly doesn't happen that often. N can get very confusing when pde5 inhibitors sometimes work n sometimes don't.

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    My endo put me on letrozole , I've been on for a few weeks. He had start with taking 1 2.5mg for the first week . The second week he had me up to two pills for that week n now on the third week had advised to be taking them every other day until they are finished. I had a script for 30 pills. Do you agree this method can n should help lower the estradiol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhonda View Post
    My endo put me on letrozole, I've been on for a few weeks. He had start with taking 1 2.5mg for the first week . The second week he had me up to two pills for that week n now on the third week had advised to be taking them every other day until they are finished. I had a script for 30 pills. Do you agree this method can n should help lower the estradiol.
    I don't agree that E2 at 35 needs addressing period really. It's not that high and likely not the cause of your issues. Not to mention that 2.5-5mg of letro is a ridiculous dose for your E2 levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123
    I don't agree that E2 at 35 needs addressing period really. It's not that high and likely not the cause of your issues. Not to mention that 2.5-5mg of letro is a ridiculous dose for your E2 levels.
    the letro is probably really messing more with the e messing up your hormone balance and not helping

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    Well I've noticed that since I started taking the letrozole that's when the pde5 inhibitors seemed like they stopped working.
    Last edited by dhonda; 03-20-2014 at 12:37 PM.

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    I appreciate you guys helping me out here. Any info is n will be helpful I'm sure. Lol just figured I throw this in here case I forget to say thanks.

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    I really kinda questioned the letrozole because I've read how harsh it could be. N. I've also been super nervous about takin it. Just hoping this endo new what he was doing.

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    Any ideas of how long it would take to let me e get to normal , if I dropped the letrozole now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhonda View Post
    Any ideas of how long it would take to let me e get to normal , if I dropped the letrozole now?
    Letro's half life is 2days I believe and it requires 9 half lives to fully metabolize out so figure just under 3wks to clear all the letro from your system. You'll likely feel better sooner than that but it'll take about that long to clear completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhonda View Post
    Well I've noticed that since I started taking the letrozole that's when the pde5 inhibitors seemed like they stopped working.
    You may have crushed your E2 levels which could offset PDE5 inhibitors. Honestly at 35 your serum E2 is not high enough to warrant letro or AI unless you feel better at a lower levels. Adex or aromasin would be a better choice but again I doubt that's the issue here (high E2). I believe it's probably psychological more than anything, you have it in your head your dick doesn't work so nothing will make it work until that changes. Taking letro is compounding the issue IMO. Can you post all your lab results and dates?

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    Thanks for all the info. I can do that but I will need to get the results from the doc. This I will do n post for ya.

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    Test total 540 250-1100
    Test free 86.4 35-155

    Estradiol 35. <39

    Lh 5.8 1.5 - 9.3

    Fsh 3.9 1.6 - 8.0

    Cholesterol total 144< 200

    Hdl cholesterol 50> 39

    Cholesterol/Hdl ratio 2.88 < 5

    Ldl cholesterol, calculated 74< 100

    Triglyceride 101 < 150

    Prolactin 3.2 2.0 - 18.0

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    These results were actually from August

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    Your Testosterone levels look good but your hdl is on the low side. How is your nutrition

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    Nutrition is pretty good, not on point but I can control my weight. What do u think of the Hdl? Can that contribute to any problems?

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    Nutrition could certainly use some fine tuning but I have been learning to eat to grow versus trying to just supplement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhonda View Post
    Nutrition is pretty good, not on point but I can control my weight. What do u think of the Hdl? Can that contribute to any problems?
    Just depend on your nutrition. Your hdl should be higher than your ldl. Last labs i ran my hdl was 95 and ldl was 35. My guess is you may not be eating enough good fats?

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    I've always tried keep fats kinda low. Almonds are usually my source of fat. Other than that it's really a lot of chicken, rice, lean meats, potatoes. N whey protein, I eat usually six meals a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhonda View Post
    I've always tried keep fats kinda low. Almonds are usually my source of fat. Other than that it's really a lot of chicken, rice, lean meats, potatoes. N whey protein
    I think you need more fats in your meal plan

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    I will certainly start including more fats in my diet. Hopefully it helps. I appreciate the advice n time.

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    Letro is actually the worst thing you could have possibly taken.
    Letro = Libido killer.

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