ED issues at start of PCT

**mr.slippyfist69** · 02-12-2015, 08:49 AM

37 yo old, 5' 8", 185, 14-15% BF, have done 5 cycles before, train as much as my body allows each week which is cardio/weights/body weight training. My diet is spot on and always has been. I am 4 days into my PCT Of torem(120/100/100/60/60 and Tamox 20mg daily throughout. My cycle was test E 700mg wk and Tren E 500mg wk ( this is the dose balance I have found to work best for me limiting sides) I ran HCG though the cycle as always and stopped dosing everything right on schedule. I had zero issues with ED on cycle and needed no assistance with that, which I believe to be in part a result of finding the correct tren/test ratio. This would be a first for me having ED issues after the cycle to this extreme. the other night I put it to the test and did 30mg of liquid CIA at about 6:00pm. While engaging in sexual activities around 10:00 I noticed I was barely erect. This scares the piss out of me to be honest because whenever I take CIA i'm G2G for days....now, nothing. If possible I would like to ask if anyone has had similar issues and if it came and went or stuck around till your system was back online. Thanks in advance

**Mr.BB** · 02-12-2015, 07:36 PM

You didnt mention about AI???

Any dopamine agonist?

Im just guessing here without bloodwork...

**mr.slippyfist69** · 02-12-2015, 07:38 PM

waiting on BW.....Yes used DEX on cycle as well as prami

**Mr.BB** · 02-12-2015, 07:40 PM

Hope you are testing for prolactin, either that or e2 would be my guess.

Btw, why not clomid? It is better for pct

**mr.slippyfist69** · 02-12-2015, 08:05 PM

Torem and tamox worked well last PCT so I went with it again. I got BW before i started and another mid cycle, the mid showed some elevated E2 but everything else was on point. I do have a drs appointment for another full panel next week and the numbers won't lie

**Java Man** · 02-12-2015, 10:02 PM

Not that unusual at day 4 of pct. You did a 19nor and test combined so even though you did take hcg that's just an analog to keep your leydigs stimulated. It doesn't fix your entire axis. Your feedback loop is quite confused right now. I swear by clomid. Never tried torem nor done any research on it but I've done plenty of research on clomiphene as well as being an avid proponent of it having used it many times with great results. I'd recommend trying 100mg clomid daily for a week, then drop it to 50 for another 2 weeks. Then 25 for another 3 weeks. (I do 6 wks of clomid on my pcts). Keep taking the nolva but up it to 40 for the next week then drop back down to 20. 10mg daily cialis, for the rest if your life. Read some of the stickies on the benefits Austinite and kelkel are quite knowledgeable about tadalafil. It was originally a medication for CHF until someone figured out it maintains erections

Oh yeah, and make the e2 commit suicide with a suicidal ai like exemestane. Your BW will tell, as you said, if e2 may be a factor. Your e2 rebounds greatly during pct, especially in the first weeks.

**< <Samson> >** · 02-13-2015, 10:15 AM

Nothing special being dickless post cycle

It takes time when you come off - Sometimes a long time & no med can speed it up

**mr.slippyfist69** · 02-13-2015, 03:09 PM

Thanks all and Samson...yes I did expect it to some degree but like stated not this extreme. At risk of sounding like a herb, I keep meticulous logs of everything during cycles and looked back to find nothing entered about any "dickless" condition and this was corroborated by my better half. The part I really wanted an answer to is how can tadalafil have no effect at all which you did answer in part. I'll update everyone after the panels return so others can use it for reference.

**< <Samson> >** · 02-13-2015, 06:34 PM

Well, this is from my experience.

When I came off some serious shit(not a cycle) I felt mostly fine, took an assesnine amount of Cialis & Viagra and it did nothing. I was just at a loss, just waited and gave it time. . . . PCT wasn't even as bad

**Lemonada8** · 02-15-2015, 09:19 AM

did u stop the tren at the same time as the test? Tren is extremely potent, and could just be the aftereffects of losing that much androgens at once.

**< <Samson> >** · 02-16-2015, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

Tren is extremely potent, and could just be the aftereffects of losing that much androgens at once.

Good point

I usually tapper off Tren , because stopping usually doesn't settle well - Even staying on TRT & not a PCT

**Roger11** · 02-17-2015, 01:53 AM

If your hormones are out of whack, IE, prolactin and e2, viagra( not sure about others) wont overcome the negative effects.

My e2 was 30 and my prolactin was WAY HIGHHHHHHHHHHH, viagra even at 200mg did nothing, i then started on caber and within a week viagra worked again.

Just FYI