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I am approaching the end of my cycle which is:
week 1-14 test p 100mg eod
Week 8-13 tren a 75mg ed
Aromasin 6.25 ed
My original plan for pct is :
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva. 20/20/20/20
My question is about using nolva after tren?
Should I not use nolva because of the tren
I plan on stopping the tren 1 week before I stop the test and stating pct 4 days after last jab of test.
I also have plenty of AromAsin left.
What about clomid and Aromasin for pct ?
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Your aromasin dose on cycle appears low. Just wondering what PCT's you have ran previously if you are asking the question?
Aromasin is fine for PCT, im going to get flamed here, but its very big in Australia to use clomid and aromasin for PCT actually.
Ill try and find some threads and studies to back it up but im too tired ATM.
Yes clomid and nolva is fine also, but nothing wrong with clomid and aromasin with some DIM AND DAA.
This is my first cycle .Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
Aromasin dosed at 6.25 as blood test confirmed I was within a good range
I keep reading that nolva can aggravate Gyno after use of tren so that's why I was unsure of pct.
Why the fvck are you taking tren on a first cycle?!?!?!
Fair point on your AI at least you have had some bloodwork, well done.
Run your clomid and Nolva as suggested, no need for an AI during that time even if it is the done thing in Australia.....
Ok thanks for the advice .
I ran the tren as I don't plan on a next cycle until next year and I was curious to find out what it does as there is so much different info out there .
Also like to add for anyone else who's is reading that the side effects has been minimal so far and that I only seem to get night sweats and irratic sleep when I eat a lot of carbs in the evening .
When I have my low carb days 120 grams I don't seem to have any sides apart from some fatigue and breathlessness during the day after I leave the gym .
As my estrogen has been managed on cycle does that reduce the chance of Gyno during pct or after ?
And will the Serms be enough to keep Gyno away during and after pct ?
Is there anything I should anticipate further ?
I see you forgot to include the fact that you also ran mast and anavar on this, your first cycle but then ran the tren too in spite of advice not to.
There are no guarantees that gyno won't rear its ugly head at some point and recovery will likely be a bumpy ride after that cycle.
Good luck.
Yes I did .
I added the mast and anavar in after I had run the test and ai for a few weeks and had blood test to confirm ai was dosed properly . Also added in because of low to none sides and the fact that masteron has other benefits like mild ai.
I have now finished the anavar and mast and plan on finishing soon .
I am aware recovery will be hard but seeing as I was shutdown I thought I might aswell get as much bang for my buck as possible while shutdown as I am not cycling till at least after Christmas which will be at least 6months off.
Are you sayin recovery will be bumpy because I've taken tren or for other reasons ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
How many cycles have you done at the ripe age of 24?
I'm 28 . 29 next month first cycle
Multiple compounds, including tren which can shut you down with just one pin.Quote:
Originally Posted by sdog1313
One pin and your totally shut down(meaning your not producing any endogenoud testosterone on your own) with one jab!Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
Do as BIB said run clomid and Nolva at the suggested doses(and at least you did bw)but at your age it's more of a risk totally recoveribg back to baseline readings(some do done don't I hope you do - if your worried you could add Nolva an extra wk at 10mgs but that's yiur call it probably won't make a difference though...
GL I hope you know in the future at higher doses if you do - a DA may be needed for prolactin...
You could extend your pct to 5 weeks, why not. As far as getting gyno from nov and tren is absurd ......nov is the first thing I use if I get a flair up on cycle even when using tren.
Do your research Tren jack u up first cycle your playing with some powerful shit don't be suprised when he said bumpy he ment itQuote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black