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    HCG during or post cycle?

    I am looking for some answers about when to take HCG . Some say take small doses during the entire cycle except the last 2 weeks and you should no cycle lag and won't need PCT. (nolvadex /clomid) I have a couple friends on TRT and there doctor does give them small doses of HCG weekly. So which is better or correct? Old school take large amounts of HCG post cycle or new school small doses during cycle? If you do it during cycle is there still a need for clomid or nolvadex post cycle? Thanks for reading.

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    Take hcg from the beginning to the end of your cycle.

    Yes still run your pct. Clomid/nolva

    What is your proposed cycle?

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    My next cycle by far is going to be my largest. I'm on a 12wk break right now but when I start in 4 wks it will be
    week 1-6 50mg d-bol daily
    weeks 1-10 test-e 750mgwk/EQ 800mgwk/tren -e 600mgwk
    weeks10-16 test pro 100mg eod/tren-a 100mg eod/masteron 100mg eod/Maybe winstrol 50mg ed. Shit starts to kill me after a few weeks. Joint pain is very harsh for me.

    IGF-1 30IU through entire cycle

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    Run the hcg at 250 iu 2xew from the beginning of the cycle right up to 3 days prior to starting pct
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    This is where I get a little confused with HCG . I know there are 5000 IU in a vial. Someone do the math and tell me where the 250 IU mark on the syringe would be. LOL

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    Mix with 2 ml bac water and pull back to the .10 on a slin pin for 250 IU's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monster View Post
    This is where I get a little confused with HCG. I know there are 5000 IU in a vial. Someone do the math and tell me where the 250 IU mark on the syringe would be. LOL
    There are good youtubeclips on how you translate a 5000 iu vial into manageable 250 iu units.

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    Here you go mate

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

    Hoping you are taking more than a 12 week break from your previous cycle?!

    Your next cycle is 1.1g test and 900mg tren pw, plus others? What are your stats and cycle history out of curiosity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monster View Post
    My next cycle by far is going to be my largest. I'm on a 12wk break right now but when I start in 4 wks it will be
    week 1-6 50mg d-bol daily
    weeks 1-10 test-e 750mgwk/EQ 800mgwk/tren -e 600mgwk
    weeks10-16 test pro 100mg eod/tren-a 100mg eod/masteron 100mg eod/Maybe winstrol 50mg ed. Shit starts to kill me after a few weeks. Joint pain is very harsh for me.

    IGF-1 30IU through entire cycle
    Are you on TRT?

    Your profile says you have many cycles under your belt... Have you not ever used hCG before? It's pretty common to know how to reconstitute... Besides that what's your proposed PCT!

    Lay out all on cycle ancillaries/& doses(AI/HCG -I think we've got that one/DA?? I don't see any listed??

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    Thanks

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    Yes I have used HCG in the past just high doses post cycle for the first few weeks. Honestly for the last year I've been coasting and blasting. Figured take a break and start fresh with HCG during my cycle. I'm not on TRT. A couple of my friends are

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    No problem reconstituting the HCG . Just how much in a pin after.

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    DA? I'm not up on all the lingo yet. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monster
    No problem reconstituting the HCG. Just how much in a pin after.
    that is determined by how much bac water you used to reconstitute it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monster
    DA? I'm not up on all the lingo yet. Lol
    dopamine antagonist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monster View Post
    Yes I have used HCG in the past just high doses post cycle for the first few weeks. Honestly for the last year I've been coasting and blasting. Figured take a break and start fresh with HCG during my cycle. I'm not on TRT. A couple of my friends are
    Has your break been a cruise? What dosages?

    Can you please list your stats and your cycle history? I'm curious at to why you feel the need to run over 3g worth of AAS per week.
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    Add 5cc bacteriostatic water into the 5000iu Hcg . Mix it and transfer it into an empty steril vial and keep it up to 60 days in your fridge [even more its not gonna loose much of its effect]. Draw from the mixed hcg with the bac water 1/2 ml into a insulin syringe marked 50 units . [you gonna draw until the 25th unit [half the syringe] [i got 1/2cc-12.7mm [1/2"].29 gauge insulin syringes]

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    The break even with the Hcg and nolvadex has been a little rough. That's why I'm looking for a better way. Actually only reason I became a member here. You hear ehat you hear at the gym but I know there is always a better way. I was told to take 1000 to 1500 of hcg for a week and a half after cycle then start pct. Didn't work that well. That's why I'm here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    dopamine antagonist
    Sorry to correct you, but DA is dopamina agonist. Most used are cabergoline and pramiprexole.

    Antagonist is for very different condition

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    take hcg the last 4-5 weeks of cycle leading up to BUT NOT into PCT at 500iu 2x a week or you can use it during whole cycle leading up to pct BUT NOT into PCT at half the dose IMO.
    you still should do a PCT...

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    Da?

    And I still have no idea what that is. LOL. Whatever they are I obviously don't use these. What are they for?

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    age 42
    Weight 220
    Height 5'10"

    D bol 100 ED week 1-4 and 8-12
    SUS 250 1000mg weeks 1-16
    Deca 600mg weeks 1-14
    IGF-1 weeks 1-16.

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    No my next cycle will be 750 test a week 600 tren e per week and 800 EQ per week 50mg of d bol daily at the begining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monster View Post
    And I still have no idea what that is. LOL. Whatever they are I obviously don't use these. What are they for?
    It's a drug that will control / lower prolactin levels which can rise in the presence of 19 Nors. Particularly when estrogen is not controlled well.
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    I have taken Armidex during all cycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monster View Post
    I have taken Armidex during all cycles
    Well, that's a big plus. Have you had BW on cycle to see if you are on target with it and keeping your E2 in range?
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    I only have my usual yearly checkup done. The armidex does cause my good cholestrol to go way down so instead of EOD I went to twice a week. I have never really had Any gyno problems at all. The only other problem is that my blood pressure raises a little above normal and my bad cholesterol gets a little high but all of that is only while I'm on cycle. Everything goes back to normal when I'm off. Not sure if that answers your question or not.

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