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    strength_savage is offline New Member
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    HCG, PCT? Please

    Hey, guys. I'm going to run the following:

    Test E and tren E for 12 weeks (possibly dbol as a kickstarter)
    Test P and Tren A for 2 weeks
    pct 2 weeks after that

    I do competitive bench press and I'm working on building a fitness brand. I've benched 440lbs while weighing 161lbs and that was completely natural. Next thing I'm looking for is 500 at no more than 180.

    My main thing is wanting to be able to have kids. I've been doing a lot of reading on hcg . It's supposed to keep your natural test and sperm production up. Looking around the web, people say different things about it. I wanted to get some info from people that may have actually done it.

    Do you guys think it's best to take during cycle or after? I've been leaning toward during.

    Also, what would you guys say would be the best PCT? But again, there's so many different ideas out there. Just trying to get some from the horse's mouth.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strength_savage View Post
    Hey, guys. I'm going to run the following:

    Test E and tren E for 12 weeks (possibly dbol as a kickstarter)
    Test P and Tren A for 2 weeks
    pct 2 weeks after that

    I do competitive bench press and I'm working on building a fitness brand. I've benched 440lbs while weighing 161lbs and that was completely natural. Next thing I'm looking for is 500 at no more than 180.

    My main thing is wanting to be able to have kids. I've been doing a lot of reading on hcg . It's supposed to keep your natural test and sperm production up. Looking around the web, people say different things about it. I wanted to get some info from people that may have actually done it.

    Do you guys think it's best to take during cycle or after? I've been leaning toward during.

    Also, what would you guys say would be the best PCT? But again, there's so many different ideas out there. Just trying to get some from the horse's mouth.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    Standard hcg use is 250iu 2x weekly

    Standard pct is
    75/50/50\50 Clomid
    40/20/20/20/20/10 Nolva

    But thing like Dbol and tren require prolactin control as well as estrogen control.

    Read,

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    Have you cycled before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strength_savage View Post
    Hey, guys. I'm going to run the following:

    Test E and tren E for 12 weeks (possibly dbol as a kickstarter)
    Test P and Tren A for 2 weeks
    pct 2 weeks after that

    I do competitive bench press and I'm working on building a fitness brand. I've benched 440lbs while weighing 161lbs and that was completely natural. Next thing I'm looking for is 500 at no more than 180.

    My main thing is wanting to be able to have kids. I've been doing a lot of reading on hcg . It's supposed to keep your natural test and sperm production up. Looking around the web, people say different things about it. I wanted to get some info from people that may have actually done it.

    Do you guys think it's best to take during cycle or after? I've been leaning toward during.

    Also, what would you guys say would be the best PCT? But again, there's so many different ideas out there. Just trying to get some from the horse's mouth.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    I dont see why hcg would matter in the question if you are able to get kids later on.
    I have red a serious article suggesting that balls on holiday for some years actually conserves their capabilities and when u get off and get them going again (if) they will work better than your natty friends balls.
    I think cycling will not hurt your balls. Its your hypothalamus that does get hurt and hcg does nothing for your hypo.
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    HCG on cycle. It's surpesssive so not for pct

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    Silabolin,
    What can be done for Hypothalamus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    Silabolin,
    What can be done for Hypothalamus?
    Nothing. Hcg mimics its hormones. Serms helping it produce hormones.

    Once ur off its all on its own. And if its ruined nothing but trt will help u.

    One of the biggest problemes for all of us.

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