Total test 138

Maybe i should put another tear at her face.
First the liver. Then the lower abdomen burning sensation.
Now this.

Ok guys.
Pct is not working.
My total test was 138 5 weeks after cycle. End of 4th week pct. Just 50 mg clomid ed. (all i have)
I was 4 month on. Two first sarms.
Used hcg at the 8 last steroidweeks.
Lh and fsh was 1.7 and 2.0

Strange thing. I dont feel that bad. Easy to jerk off and come.
Easy to keep size and strength. Yet.
Used a esters and just 250 mg sus a week.

Doc sent textmessage and i called the office to talk to him.
He calls me tomorrow and i will ask for trt but i fear he doesnt even know what trt is.
I was 350 before i started that last run 10 weeks after summercycle.

Can't you get an endo?

Your a beast sil so give it more time for rebound, size is still there and try your best to full recover. More time imho and see in another couple of months if your values have changed but don't let a evil clown draw blood, they not right mate.

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Originally Posted by marcus300

Your a beast sil so give it more time for rebound, size is still there and try your best to full recover. More time imho and see in another couple of months if your values have changed but don't let a evil clown draw blood, they not right mate.

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Bizarro. If so it has to be my doc who fix it.
Wont get an appointment all by my self.

So marcus. If doc offers me testgel tomorrow (often used around here for hypogonadism) i should say no thanks and take a new test in 2 months?
U would have done that if u were me?

(ill start summercycle 1 may nomatter what, if my alat comes down)

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Originally Posted by Silabolin

Bizarro. If so it has to be my doc who fix it.
Wont get an appointment all by my self.

So marcus. If doc offers me testgel tomorrow (often used around here for hypogonadism) i should say no thanks and take a new test in 2 months?

(ill start summercycle 1 may nomatter what, if my alat comes down)

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Noted.

Like marcus said you levels might come back but they might also not, I'd be preventive and seek someone willing to prescribe TRT.

Gels are shit, get nebido.

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Originally Posted by Silabolin

Bizarro. If so it has to be my doc who fix it.
Wont get an appointment all by my self.

So marcus. If doc offers me testgel tomorrow (often used around here for hypogonadism) i should say no thanks and take a new test in 2 months?
U would have done that if u were me?

(ill start summercycle 1 may nomatter what, if my alat comes down)

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I would add sil another 2-3 months to see rebound occurs, sometimes it takes that time but you do abuse it to be honest but we all do, give it time then consider trt, your not losing size your naturally big so bear with it and how you are in at the least 6 weeks mate

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Originally Posted by bizzarro

Noted.

Like marcus said you levels might come back but they might also not, I'd be preventive and seek someone willing to prescribe TRT.

Gels are shit, get nebido.

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Bizz is all this for me

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Originally Posted by marcus300

I would add sil another 2-3 months to see rebound occurs, sometimes it takes that time but you do abuse it to be honest but we all do, give it time then consider trt, your not losing size your naturally big so bear with it and how you are in at the least 6 weeks mate

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Yeah im feeling ok as i said. I have an easy life outside the gym also.

Abuse? What are u talking about now then..
Just find another dude at my age who has done 20 + cycles and stil has a pretty much clean bill of health and stil a hpta that migth come back.

My runs were always at the cruiselevels for u guys.

Never touched insulin, hgh or peptides (just one cjc-trip)

Little sarms but thats peanutts compared to u mr 5 g ew :)

Anyway. Thanks for your thoughts mate

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Bizz is all this for me

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What do you mean?

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Originally Posted by bizzarro

What do you mean?

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you doing good mate in my eyes keep it up

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Originally Posted by Silabolin

Yeah im feeling ok as i said. I have an easy life outside the gym also.

Abuse? What are u talking about now then..
Just find another dude at my age who has done 20 + cycles and stil has a pretty much clean bill of health and stil a hpta that migth come back.

My runs were always at the cruiselevels for u guys.

Never touched insulin, hgh or peptides (just one cjc-trip)

Little sarms but thats peanutts compared to u mr 5 g ew :)

Anyway. Thanks for your thoughts mate

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Just give yourself time to recover if not seek trt

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Just give yourself time to recover if not seek trt

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Agreed. It is a bit early, although the clomid should have your LH at much higher values, is it pharma clomiphene citrate? Is you prolactin in check?

At the end of the day it depends on what you want, if you want to recover or follow to TRT.

About the symptoms, many guys are too sensitive or its all in their heads. For me I only start getting low T sides after 2-3 months of T in the 200's, and it progresses slowly.

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Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Agreed. It is a bit early, although the clomid should have your LH at much higher values, is it pharma clomiphene citrate? Is you prolactin in check?

At the end of the day it depends on what you want, if you want to recover or follow to TRT.

About the symptoms, many guys are too sensitive or its all in their heads. For me I only start getting low T sides after 2-3 months of T in the 200's, and it progresses slowly.

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Prolactin in the mid 200s. In range for the first time in years.
Clomid looks legit. Got it from the same site as the gear.
That one surprised me the most. Fair enough that my natty test will not come up. But clomid should raise it more. 50 mg ed should work better.

I want to stay away from trt as long as i can. So i think i follow marcus advice. Feeling ok. But if you are rigth about the low test sides timeframe, its ok. Cause i will be up soon for a new cycle by then. Given my alat normalizes.

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Just give yourself time to recover if not seek trt

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You are getting that age anyway man. I doubt my levels come back at age 31. I would be seeking trt or self administering if i were at that level two months from now.

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Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

You are getting that age anyway man. I doubt my levels come back at age 31. I would be seeking trt or self administering if i were at that level two months from now.

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Selfadmin....u gonna trust the black marked for the rest of your life?

So. Doc called. Think i manage to talk him into it.
He wanted me to come to his office so we could discuss what to do. Promising.
Trt...jippi.

Why not?...no more hcg or pct. I guess going with 200-500 between cycles isnt healthy at all.
I think i say yes if he offers me at protocol that seems rigth. Talking high 600s baby.

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Originally Posted by Silabolin

So. Doc called. Think i manage to talk him into it.
He wanted me to come to his office so we could discuss what to do. Promising.
Trt...jippi.

Why not?...no more hcg or pct. I guess going with 200-500 between cycles isnt healthy at all.
I think i say yes if he offers me at protocol that seems rigth. Talking high 600s baby.

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Say you heard something about nebido, better yet it would be for him to mention it to you. Say you have low libido, and always tired, bad recovery at gym, loss strength, etc. You need to sell it too, doctors treat symptoms, if you have none...

Dont mention HCG or AI, you can do that on the side if you want to. If you talk too much you will scare him.

If he is a good doctor he will want to give you clomid first.

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Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Say you heard something about nebido, better yet it would be for him to mention it to you. Say you have low libido, and always tired, bad recovery at gym, loss strength, etc. You need to sell it too, doctors treat symptoms, if you have none...

Dont mention HCG or AI, you can do that on the side if you want to. If you talk too much you will scare him.

If he is a good doctor he will want to give you clomid first.

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Do u do hcg and ai with your nebido?

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Originally Posted by Silabolin

Do u do hcg and ai with your nebido?

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No.

Ai not needed. I was doing HCG for a while, but then ran out and never restarted it. Feel the same, my FSH was actually 2.6 last labs so its good the wife is on BC pill.

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my FSH was actually 2.6 last labs

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Really? That's remarkable.

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Originally Posted by bizzarro

Really? That's remarkable.

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The new endo asked for LH and FSH. LH was zero. I was surprised too.

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The new endo asked for LH and FSH. LH was zero. I was surprised too.

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I think its logical. Lh hits the ledigcells for test but that is not necessary anymore. Fsh works on the semencells and that is stil necessary.

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Originally Posted by Silabolin

I think its logical. Lh hits the ledigcells for test but that is not necessary anymore. Fsh works on the semencells and that is stil necessary.

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Well, usually the pituitary is not that smart :)