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    I screwed up big time.. help with PCT (1.5 year cycle)

    Alright, a bit of background info on myself..

    I'm currently 28 and I've been doing 12-14 week cycles since I was 21.. I always was responsible, did proper PCT, etc...

    1.5 years ago I started a cycle and I figured I would push it this time, see how big I can get. (didn't get hormone bloodwork beforehand but I get a general blood work test in Dec of 2017 and I was healthy)

    I basically did did test e the entire time with 8 weeks of tren in the middle. I never ran HCG and I got off late Jan. Now before I could begin my PCT, had a family emergency overseas and I had to fly out. I come back last week and obviously I'm crashing hard. Zero interest in sex, no desire to work out, etc.. Luckily, I still have a woody when I wake up so there may be some hope.

    I go to my MD and tell her I need to get my test checked since I'm feeling tired (don't mention anything about anabolics.)

    My results are:
    Free Testosterone 42.0
    Total Testosterone 234.0

    I'm now in full panic mode. I ordered a female hormone (to check LH/FSH) panel from a private lab that I will get done tomorrow or the day after. Results should be in by Saturday hopefully. If I'm permanently shut down, so be it... I'm just horrified that I may have fucked myself up and won't be able to have kids since the wife and I are discussing it now.

    I also started 25 mg of Tamox and .5 mg of Anastrozole today.. should I stop that now so I can get accurate results?

    I've been reading other, similar topics and I ordered Clomid as well.

    Like I said, I know I fucked up and if anyone has any advice, i would truly appreciate it!
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    How long was it since your last shot and when you got that blood work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Frenchie View Post
    How long was it since your last shot and when you got that blood work?
    Last shot was end of January. I got blood work in December (didn't test hormones, just a general blood work wellness test) and then I had my MD test my test levels on March 31st. I didn't do blood work before the cycle because I'm an idiot.

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    I'd suggest a normal pct of both clomid and nolva with the nolva extended to 6 weeks instead of 4.
    Also stop the adex. Why on earth would you need an AI when you have virtually no functional testosterone ? With low test comes low estrogen. You're making things worse, not better. Don't run any AI during pct.

    Then wait at least 8 weeks and get BW done. If your test sucks at that point then you're bound TRT.
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    Hey. I need a bit more advice. I'm still running my research chems (ordering pharma Tamox/clomid from AllDayChemist tomorrow) but I went and did bloodwork regardless..

    My test is still shot and my LH/FSH are crazy low.. is that from the Tamox and Clomid or what's going on? Also, should my estrogen be this low? I haven't taken any AI in two weeks. My test dipped even lower than when I posted this thread originally.

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