PCT didnt work

[heynce]

hello guys, i was on enanthate 100 mg and testoviron 100 mg per week for 2 years, its been 2 years since i discontinued everything, even the gym.. did several shots of HCG over the time, with clomiphene citrate cycle 50mg then 25 mg for 4 weeks...


my sperm count is low, same as i was on steroids , much lower then what i had when was never on steroids. i did a testosterone test few months ago, which stated i have half the value of what i should b having according to my age. i am 29. result said i have levels of an old man.


can some body advice me what to do next?

[Obs]

This is pretty vague.
What was your test value, sperm counts, a regiment withclomidand hcg ?

Also, ehy did you stop? Fertility I presume?
When did you start the "pct"?

Sorry ifi missedsomething. Responding on the fly

[Eduke93]

Also...

Your restart protocol wasn’t very good at all.

It was too short and Clomid isn’t efficient enough, maybe for a little blast but not for what you’ve done.

Day 1-20 HCG @ 2000 IU EOD
Day 1-20 AI @ 0.25mg EOD (Not always needed)
Day 15-51 Clomid @ 50mg 2x PD
Day 15-66 Nolvadex @ 20mg 2x PD

Above is an example of what your protocol should have looked like, this is an example, alternations to be made dependant on yourself.

[heynce]

i stopped because i just stopped growing, my veins started popping out everywhere, i started getting leaner instead of growing as i was dieting to gain more weight, no matter how many shakes i added of weight gainer, i was not growing even in grams of weight. so i thought its best to stop... my weight then was 90 kg all muscular with 18 inch of arms, now i am back to 63 kg( i lost all the gains cause i stopped eating cause of stress and anxiety ) possibly effect of low hormones.

my thyroid works in normal range. though i had extremely low level of vit d. for almot 1 year, it didnt get normal after taking shots of vitamin D. then now, level of vitamin d is half of what should b there.

i didnt check for sperm count, but i can c it . its same as i was on steroids , when i was on HCG , sperm quantity coming out increased tremendously . but went down after few days.


my regiment was i did 3 weeks 3 shots of 5000 ui HCG, then a week later started clomid 50 mg , and dropped it to 25 for 4 weeks.

for my testosterone result, i dont remember the value, but i could the value which came for me was for 60 year old man, around 200, yeah, it was 200 something, 600 being highest( not sure )

This is pretty vague.
What was your test value, sperm counts, a regiment withclomidand hcg?

Also, ehy did you stop? Fertility I presume?
When did you start the "pct"?

Sorry ifi missedsomething. Responding on the fly

[heynce]

do u think if i do this methode u said, will work now??

[Obs]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4854084/

Here is your link.
Either you did something wrong with the protocol or it is not related to AAS usage almost certainly one of the two.

You could be an extremely rare case but unlikely.

[Obs]

Clomid and hcg are effective 99% of the time in jumpstarting spermatogenisis afyer AAS disruption.

That article is long and boring. I would skip to the part about serms and hcg together toward the end.

Timing when you start afterlast dose and duration can mean everythinh.

God i hate driving

[Obs]

Aha! Euduke!

You have done this before havent you or am I thinking of someone else using scally power?

[Eduke93]

Aha! Euduke!

You have done this before havent you or am I thinking of someone else using scally power?

I've done this before... and failed. Deep down, I wanted to stay on anyway