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01-14-2019, 02:35 PM #1New Member
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02-14-2019, 11:08 PM #2
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
Mentioned here. 0.5EOD is on the high side. Unless your super sensitive to estrogen related issues or prone to gyno or sides due to aromatization that amount of AI is sure to kill your estrogen. Multiple threads on here regarding the use or lack of AI on cycle.
I myself plan to ditch the AI on the next cycle and stick with a SERM(nolva) during cycle.
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02-14-2019, 11:28 PM #3BANNED
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it would be helpful if you mentioned your cycle . lets say your cycle was Primo and Anavar for 6 weeks. well you wouldn't need an AI thats for sure, so you wouldn't need to run an AI in PCT and in fact you may not even need to do a pct.
but if your one to follow popular trends, your probably doing a test only cycle . still may not need an AI. but if you do go that route then you'll want to run it more towards the later half of your cycle and run it up until the day you start PCT , which will likely be 2 weeks after your last pin (if test c or e).
or like Swollster , drop the AI all together and run a low dose SERM / Nolva and then continue using that up through your PCT. OR run a cycle that is not highly estrogenic (if your not after mass) where you don't need E control at all.
lots of options.. it really depends on your situation, goals, personal sensitivity issues, etc.. but NO, you don't need to run an AI up through your pct
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Rant ahead
AI's are useful tools in certain situations (so I advocate their use when needed) , however they are the most useful tool for Drug Dealers to make money, as their profit margins are the highest on AI sells. heck between AI and PCT drugs, you've spent more then your entire cycle cost. Lots of guys complain about how expensive Primo and Anavar cost , yet they have no problem dropping $1 per Mg on an AI which is way way more pricey then either Var or Primo. . and like I mention above , var and primo can be ran without an AI and without a PCT in most cases . hmmm, do the math on that one.
sure test and dbol are cheap compared to primo and var , but PCT and AI's are not cheap
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03-07-2019, 07:29 AM #5
I'm just learning here but:
There is so much conflicting information flying around, and pretty much every boards stickies are 10 to 15yrs old on these subjects. Are AIs not useful (regardless of usage on cycle or estrogen issues) for the time between end of cycle through to at least a week or two of PCT when your testosterone levels are coming down to ensure your estrogen does not rebound and comes down with it. Obviously need a low dosage, maybe. 25 or. 5 eod or twice weekly of say Armidex. I'm starting to understand that it's not about keeping estrogen down only but rather maintaining the ratio or balance of estrogen to testosterone . And during PCT high estrogen and low test is the cause of many of the issues experienced is it not?
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03-08-2019, 07:53 AM #7Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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If you use an AI from day 1 you'll never know whether or not you actually use it. So simple solution is don't use an AI + get bloodwork done mid cycle. If there are no symptoms of high estrogen and bloodwork looks fine then g2g. If not adjust accordingly.
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