Time:PCT to cycle help

[GTtheGUY]

Ok I ran a test only cycle and am now PCTing for 4 weeks. After the 4 weeks of PCT meds do i still need to wait before going back on the test again for another cycle? And I know a lot of you are going to say it depends on your blood work, problem Is I live in buttfuck Iowa and dont have anywhere around here to do labs on me. I've checked and the local hospitals want a drs order etc. There just isnt anywhere. So provided my pct goes well and I feel good after the 4 weeks am I ok to go again or shiuld I give it some time? Thanks Greg.

[austinite]

Generally, it is wise to wait the same amount of your cycle and PCT time.

So if you did a 12 week cycle, waited 2 weeks for PCT, did a 4 week PCT then the math would like like this...

12+2+4= 18 weeks. So it's ideal to wait 18 weeks before starting another cycle. This is not set in stone of course, but it's a wise choice as it allows enough time to return to homeostasis prior to cycling again.

[GTtheGUY]

Shit I was hoping you weren't going to say something like that! I'm ready to go again. But I'll take your advice. Thanks.

[GearHeaded]

the idea of time off of gear is equivalent to time on gear plus time on pct , may be best for for your HPTA recovery, but its surely not optimal for gains. it only gives you about 2 cycles per year. or 10 total cycles in a half a decade. thats not a whole lot of gains to be had there with that little of cycling , IF bodybuilding or gaining a lot of muscle is important to you.

for optimal gains , for those that plan on doing PCT after each cycle (which I personally think is not ideal and is over kill), I'd say that just as soon as your HPTA is restarted and your producing a good amount of natty test again, then your ready to go back on (your pct did its job).

if your biggest concern is maintaining optimal natty levels of HPTA function. then you prob shouldn't be running gear in the first place.
but if your running gear for the gains first and foremost, why cut those gains short for the sake of your HPTA if its recovered for the most part anyways.

thats just my opinion and nothing more.. I have no evidence or suggestions for anything, its all just a person decision. there is no wrong or right answer here. wither you wait 2 months between cycles or 2 years. it comes down to what you want to do

[Rjr1983]

On the issues you have obtaining lab work: have you tried the private online lab sites? Directlabs and privatemdlabs both offer lab orders online, then you take present those to the clinic and they ship the results to the company.

[GTtheGUY]

Thanks gearhead, makes sense. And I'll look into those labs mentioned also...

[Obs]

the idea of time off of gear is equivalent to time on gear plus time on pct , may be best for for your HPTA recovery, but its surely not optimal for gains. it only gives you about 2 cycles per year. or 10 total cycles in a half a decade. thats not a whole lot of gains to be had there with that little of cycling , IF bodybuilding or gaining a lot of muscle is important to you.

for optimal gains , for those that plan on doing PCT after each cycle (which I personally think is not ideal and is over kill), I'd say that just as soon as your HPTA is restarted and your producing a good amount of natty test again, then your ready to go back on (your pct did its job).

if your biggest concern is maintaining optimal natty levels of HPTA function. then you prob shouldn't be running gear in the first place.
but if your running gear for the gains first and foremost, why cut those gains short for the sake of your HPTA if its recovered for the most part anyways.

thats just my opinion and nothing more.. I have no evidence or suggestions for anything, its all just a person decision. there is no wrong or right answer here. wither you wait 2 months between cycles or 2 years. it comes down to what you want to do

Aye... They used to jump asses for saying things like that. Enough that I pretty much formed an infallable argument.

You take steroids to become unnaturally large.
Your natural levels may not ever return the first time you cycle. So stepping in you understand it may be a marriage.

So why fuck about? Marry that needle.
Wtf? I just cant understand why guys ping pong back and forth. Build and lose build and lose....
Build maintain and build again.

Trt was the best decision I ever made.
Honestly if a guy isnt old enough to make a lifelong commitment to trt, he has no business playing with juice.

Their arguments were, "You may have to stick yourself with a needle for the rest of your life!" And "Your dick will fly off!"

I still got a dick, works like a champ, I have sex about four times more than the average couple and if poking myself with a needle twice a week is my biggest bitch then I am living it up!

It is amazing how we can actually speak out minds now without an onslaught of parrots and dickholes trying to peck our eyes out and suffocate us....

We free men now GH.... Free men.

[Obs]

Lol! Someday I am gonna see a guy sulking and throw a screaming fit because he has to inject himself and he doesn't want to feel good?

"I hate it dammit! Needles hurt! And my penis is always wanting to fuck stuff!"

Yes.... It is terrible.
Orgasms are much stronger, more muscle, more stares from strange women,....

God. Someone take away this demon juice.

Aww... Dewey you don't want no part ah this shit!