HCG Method Options

[DeeCee112]

Alright so I'm hoping to get some feedback on incorporating hcg into my cycle. I did plan to run it the entire cycle but it was running late, I got antsy and pulled the trigger early so I'm on my 5th week and it's in now but only 1 bottle. I'm also going to Mexico week 17 now, originally planned to run 16weeks of just test e at 500mgs a week. I've got some advice from gym buddies but looking to check in here for a few options I am considering. Testes have shrunk about an eight to a quarter in size.

1) Run 500iu a week last 10 weeks of cycle up until the day I leave for Mexico along with last test pin. Float nothing for 7 days in Mexico, and first week back, start standard nolva/clomid 4 week pct.

2)Pin 500mg of test day before leaving (750mg that week) , return and pin standard 250 twice that week making cycle 18weeks with that 1 week in Mexico where I may get a couple workouts in. Start HCG blast method 500iu a day starting 4 days after last pin for 10days up until first day of pct same Nolva/clomid combo for 4 weeks.

Also a little unsure of AI usage during this time. I was taking. 5mg on pin days until I read some solid posts and studies on here about the anabolic effects of estrogen so I stopped taking it unless I see the need. I have however read some stuff about taking it in the 14 days between pin and pct to prevent estrogen rebound while test is plummeting.

As always thanks for any feedback or responses!

[Windex]

For starters - I would never listen to people at the gym for advice - and I would never talk about gear at the gym, least of all in the Toronto area.

Run the HCG at 500 IU starting now. 7 days is too soon for PCT after the last Test E shot . You are going to need a solid training and nutrition strategy otherwise your whole cycle may as well go out the window.

Use it as a learning opportunity to not cycle around a vacation and don't start a cycle until everything is in your hands.

[DeeCee112]

For starters - I would never listen to people at the gym for advice - and I would never talk about gear at the gym, least of all in the Toronto area.

Run the HCG at 500 IU starting now. 7 days is too soon for PCT after the last Test E shot . You are going to need a solid training and nutrition strategy otherwise your whole cycle may as well go out the window.

Use it as a learning opportunity to not cycle around a vacation and don't start a cycle until everything is in your hands.

Thanks for the advice I do appreciate it but a few things

By gym buddies I meant good friends I have grown up with for years and have been supporting eachother. Not some dudes at the gym, I get that, wrong wording.

Both options have pct starting at 14 days after, not 7 if that isn't clear.

I'm confused where the training and nutrition strategy comment is coming from? Both have been going extremely well and I plan to continue on through pct and further to retain my hard earned muscle. I don't drink heavily and may only have a night or two of some drinking while away but for the most part will still be training and eating(probably eating more). My only issue is with transporting the substances.

I didn't plan to goto Mexico when I started the cycle, I had actually mixed up the dates prior, yes a mistake on my part. Not having my hcg in hand when starting was something I own though but was a risk I took knowing it was close.

Anyway like I said thanks for the advice. So run the 500iu of hcg up until last pin in week 16. Hit Mexico for a week, return for a week than start pct. No HCG in the 2 weeks between last pin and PCT?

[Windex]

Thanks for the advice I do appreciate it but a few things

By gym buddies I meant good friends I have grown up with for years and have been supporting eachother. Not some dudes at the gym, I get that, wrong wording.

Both options have pct starting at 14 days after, not 7 if that isn't clear.

I'm confused where the training and nutrition strategy comment is coming from? Both have been going extremely well and I plan to continue on through pct and further to retain my hard earned muscle. I don't drink heavily and may only have a night or two of some drinking while away but for the most part will still be training and eating(probably eating more). My only issue is with transporting the substances.

I didn't plan to goto Mexico when I started the cycle, I had actually mixed up the dates prior, yes a mistake on my part. Not having my hcg in hand when starting was something I own though but was a risk I took knowing it was close.

Anyway like I said thanks for the advice. So run the 500iu of hcg up until last pin in week 16. Hit Mexico for a week, return for a week than start pct. No HCG in the 2 weeks between last pin and PCT?

CanadaPost has a lot of rotating strikes, one of the gambles.

What I mean by a solid nutrition and training plan is don't drink like a fish, figure out a strategy to hit macros when you aren't cooking your own food, see what gym facilities are available, if weights don't go high have a high volume program in place etc.

Basically you don't wanna have a free for all / frenzy when you are there between buffets, open bar, etc. Moreso important as you will be transitioning to PCT where it's make or break on the gains you keep.

If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't touch alcohol. Just my $0.02

[DeeCee112]

Ah I got you sorry I misunderstood. But yeah hence my thoughts to hit the double dose of test the day before I leave then pin 250 x 2 the week I return THEN PCT. 18weeks pushes it to a pretty damn long cycle for my first though...

[Windex]

Just saw your comment on transporting - never bring any gear with you out of canada even with a script. Giant no-no

[DeeCee112]

Just saw your comment on transporting - never bring any gear with you out of canada even with a script. Giant no-no

Ya I got you on that one, not something I'm gonna do hence trying to sort a plan out around that week. So heres the plan:

6-16 HCG 250iu 2x a week
18-22 PCT Nolva/Clomid combo