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    Time to get off, for a minute.

    Never thought I'd bed posting in this section. I'm getting off, finally, to try and get my girl pregnant. Neither one of us is getting younger and it's time to try and see what happens.

    Last injection was the Friday before last, so the 9th of September... Been on TRT/steroids since August 2018 and ran HCG most of the time. Nuts shrank maybe 30% during this time. I haven't checked my LH/FSH but figured they are close to 0.

    My protocol is a little different than most, and I'm working with what I have now, no doctor involved.

    I'm running just HCG right now and tapering down from 500 units EOD (4 injections) > 400 > 300 > 200 > 100 > 50 > 0.

    Right now I feel great but it hasn't been that long and I am taking HCG. I hope the landing won't be so bad, but we'll see.
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    Good luck. From what ive heard / read youre gonna feel pretty meh for a whilee just dont let it get into your head
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    Fuck!

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    Well, I have considered it more than a few times - so, I have advice from some knowledgeable folk


    #1 Is come off, of course - HCG , whatever

    #2 Is a shit ton of clomid, I mean a ton. . . From the advice I have been given, a whole lot more than I expected. You're looking at around 100mg daily until you actually knock her up

    That's about it

    There are plenty of other questionable additives, HMG, Trib & so on


    But, ass tons of clomid is going to be the most important - from what I have gathered


    GL < You'll need it. . . . You haven't been on that long tho, so "hopefully" it will go better than some that I have heard


    Just ran into my long time acquaintance I haven't seen in years. He's a decade younger than me & has been on for a 5+ years. . . He made it to the 3 month mark before he lost his marbles(his words) - He wound up at a psychiatrist & is now on prescribed TRT. He's married too & really wants to knock up his wife. . . But, for now he gave up

    Had to add that one in^



    Post back on how this goes man. . . . I've been on for over a decade. . . So, for now - One son it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Fuck!

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    Well, I have considered it more than a few times - so, I have advice from some knowledgeable folk


    #1 Is come off, of course - HCG , whatever

    #2 Is a shit ton of clomid, I mean a ton. . . From the advice I have been given, a whole lot more than I expected. You're looking at around 100mg daily until you actually knock her up

    That's about it

    There are plenty of other questionable additives, HMG, Trib & so on


    But, ass tons of clomid is going to be the most important - from what I have gathered


    GL < You'll need it. . . . You haven't been on that long tho, so "hopefully" it will go better than some that I have heard


    Just ran into my long time acquaintance I haven't seen in years. He's a decade younger than me & has been on for a 5+ years. . . He made it to the 3 month mark before he lost his marbles(his words) - He wound up at a psychiatrist & is now on prescribed TRT. He's married too & really wants to knock up his wife. . . But, for now he gave up

    Had to add that one in^



    Post back on how this goes man. . . . I've been on for over a decade. . . So, for now - One son it is

    Yeah, I know everyone says to take clomid - including doctors. I just figure I'll do an LH/FSH test, then a sperm motility test and go from there.. I really hope I don't get the negative mental sides too bad. That's the only thing that scares me.. losing muscle, not so much. It's not forever and I can always hit a nice cycle next summer if everything goes as planned.

    I lost about 14 lbs from the Covid and appendicitis surgery and feel better than I have in years. That and only doing a shot of test a week (half what I was doing before) had me feeling pretty good. Still doing ok on HCG. I think my balls are still functioning. I hope the brain can catch up quick once it realizes there's no more HCG and starts producing LH/FSH. I never discovered if I had primary or secondary hypogonadism, but I wasn't very low to begin with.

    I know the depths of where my mind will take me. If I can manage that with a little weed and keep myself busy (not a problem heh), I'll see how it goes. I'll keep you posted for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Never thought I'd bed posting in this section. I'm getting off, finally, to try and get my girl pregnant. Neither one of us is getting younger and it's time to try and see what happens.

    Last injection was the Friday before last, so the 9th of September... Been on TRT/steroids since August 2018 and ran HCG most of the time. Nuts shrank maybe 30% during this time. I haven't checked my LH/FSH but figured they are close to 0.

    My protocol is a little different than most, and I'm working with what I have now, no doctor involved.

    I'm running just HCG right now and tapering down from 500 units EOD (4 injections) > 400 > 300 > 200 > 100 > 50 > 0.

    Right now I feel great but it hasn't been that long and I am taking HCG. I hope the landing won't be so bad, but we'll see.
    Getting off in a minute.... Story of my life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Getting off in a minute.... Story of my life
    You should really go see a Drů.. a fucking psychiatrist!!


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    I think & feel it could be done - also, after talking to some folk I got some good pointers.

    Just do the time - ass tons of Clomid & let nature take its course - just hope for the best


    If me the wife were in a different place, I’d do it - or, at least try. But, where we are now? For sure it’s been for the best of things that she hasn’t gotten knocked up.

    I do want another kid, but not under my current life circumstances.

    Think of the end result - if, that’s what u want? Shit, a year of a bit of suffering ain’t shit. Can’t b much worse than recovering from a brain hemorrhage
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    You should really go see a Dr….. a fucking psychiatrist!!


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    Dated a therapist. She won't talk to me anymore.
    She said I had too much drama and my exes were crazy. Made me feel good I wasn't included in the crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Dated a therapist. She won't talk to me anymore.
    She said I had too much drama and my exes were crazy. Made me feel good I wasn't included in the crazy.
    Maybe she was just being polite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Yeah, I know everyone says to take clomid - including doctors. I just figure I'll do an LH/FSH test, then a sperm motility test and go from there.. I really hope I don't get the negative mental sides too bad. That's the only thing that scares me.. losing muscle, not so much. It's not forever and I can always hit a nice cycle next summer if everything goes as planned.

    I lost about 14 lbs from the Covid and appendicitis surgery and feel better than I have in years. That and only doing a shot of test a week (half what I was doing before) had me feeling pretty good. Still doing ok on HCG . I think my balls are still functioning. I hope the brain can catch up quick once it realizes there's no more HCG and starts producing LH/FSH. I never discovered if I had primary or secondary hypogonadism, but I wasn't very low to begin with.

    I know the depths of where my mind will take me. If I can manage that with a little weed and keep myself busy (not a problem heh), I'll see how it goes. I'll keep you posted for sure.
    I know the mantra is clomid clomid clomid, but maybe take a look at enclomiphene. It is supposed to be all the good of clomid, none of the bad.

    HMG imitates FSH, so while expensive, probably not a bad thing to try as long as you get your timing down. Like, shoot up some hmg the morning you know your girl will be at her peak, then that afternoon or evening, shag-a-thon!

    Everything else, I think, may just contribute to how you feel vs actually helping produce soldiers. Still, that is important, so trib longjack daa are things to look at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    I know the mantra is clomid clomid clomid, but maybe take a look at enclomiphene. It is supposed to be all the good of clomid, none of the bad.

    HMG imitates FSH, so while expensive, probably not a bad thing to try as long as you get your timing down. Like, shoot up some hmg the morning you know your girl will be at her peak, then that afternoon or evening, shag-a-thon!

    Everything else, I think, may just contribute to how you feel vs actually helping produce soldiers. Still, that is important, so trib longjack daa are things to look at.
    I see my online source sells a pack of 50 @ 25 mg for $120. I'll check this stuff out. thanks
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    Dated a therapist. She won't talk to me anymore.
    She said I had too much drama and my exes were crazy. Made me feel good I wasn't included in the crazy.[/QUOTE]

    Maybe she was just being polite?

    She was. Should never have showed her the vid of the aftermath of my ex bleeding out in my floor after she punched out my window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Never thought I'd bed posting in this section. I'm getting off, finally, to try and get my girl pregnant. Neither one of us is getting younger and it's time to try and see what happens.

    Last injection was the Friday before last, so the 9th of September... Been on TRT/steroids since August 2018 and ran HCG most of the time. Nuts shrank maybe 30% during this time. I haven't checked my LH/FSH but figured they are close to 0.

    My protocol is a little different than most, and I'm working with what I have now, no doctor involved.

    I'm running just HCG right now and tapering down from 500 units EOD (4 injections) > 400 > 300 > 200 > 100 > 50 > 0.

    Right now I feel great but it hasn't been that long and I am taking HCG. I hope the landing won't be so bad, but we'll see.
    Good luck my Brother hope you are successful and have some fun trying!
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    Getting off in a minute.... Story of my life

    Rumor has it that's an improvement.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I see my online source sells a pack of 50 @ 25 mg for $120. I'll check this stuff out. thanks
    This is everything I know about enclomiphene

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...formation.html

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    Oct 2. Balls feel slightly bigger. Sex drive is down, way down. I've been looking at cats on craigslist... not for me, asshole. For my mom who just turned 60.

    Workouts have been a miss for the most part since I got back from vacation. I've only worked out 4 times since then. I lost 15 lbs during that time and since. Not working out really reduces the appetite. That and the covid + appendicitis diet.

    Overall, though, not feeling too bad. I'm down to 350 units of HCG EOD. I was supposed to go from 400 to 300, but decided to slow it down more.
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    Good luck man. Why did you come off and not just cruise? If you don't mind me asking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Overall, though, not feeling too bad. I'm down to 350 units of HCG EOD. I was supposed to go from 400 to 300, but decided to slow it down more.
    How long since your last test shot?

    Shoot, my biggest concern is shitty weight gain. Muscle weight loss def doesn’t sound great either, but muscle has memory & imo you’d pump back up fast when back on roids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Never thought I'd bed posting in this section. I'm getting off, finally, to try and get my girl pregnant. Neither one of us is getting younger and it's time to try and see what happens.

    Last injection was the Friday before last, so the 9th of September... Been on TRT/steroids since August 2018 and ran HCG most of the time. Nuts shrank maybe 30% during this time. I haven't checked my LH/FSH but figured they are close to 0.

    My protocol is a little different than most, and I'm working with what I have now, no doctor involved.

    I'm running just HCG right now and tapering down from 500 units EOD (4 injections) > 400 > 300 > 200 > 100 > 50 > 0.

    Right now I feel great but it hasn't been that long and I am taking HCG. I hope the landing won't be so bad, but we'll see.
    Is adoption out of the question or are y'all holding that card for later on?

    I have no experience with the process, costs, etc, just thought I would throw it out there.

    Either way, Good luck, TM. Children just wasn't in the cards for the wife and I, so we just treat our dogs like "our children".

    ....and before anyone drops a hemorrhoid, I'm not comparing children to dogs, just stating our situation.
    There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    How long since your last test shot?

    Shoot, my biggest concern is shitty weight gain. Muscle weight loss def doesn’t sound great either, but muscle has memory & imo you’d pump back up fast when back on roids.
    Last shot was September 9th. I haven’t gained any fat as far as I can tell. Just lost some. Lost muscle fullness and size, too. Most of the weight came from my upper body. Its weird, but I feel I have better balance now. The center of gravity is no longer my head and shoulders lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Is adoption out of the question or are y'all holding that card for later on?

    I have no experience with the process, costs, etc, just thought I would throw it out there.

    Either way, Good luck, TM. Children just wasn't in the cards for the wife and I, so we just treat our dogs like "our children".

    ....and before anyone drops a hemorrhoid, I'm not comparing children to dogs, just stating our situation.
    Thanks, AG. Having children terrifies me. My instinct is to run and never look back, but my conscience tells me otherwise. The woman I’m with is a saint and should have had children by now. For her I’m willing to try. I don’t think I’d want to adopt, but who knows down the line. I am letting nature take its course and seeing where things go. If I think too much about everything, I won’t do it, so I just do and not think.

    I always said there’s enough of us in the world. Pets are not easy, either. The pets I had ended up with my ex, and for the better. We couldn’t separate them, and they are better there than here. I miss them, though. My cat Luna I got in 2011 when I was living in LA. I was walking into a grocery store and a little Mexican woman and her son had two cats they were giving away. They asked me if I would take them. I told them if they still have them when I come back out of the store, I will take one. That was my first real pet (not counting fish and parakeets when I was a kid). She’s still alive today, poor girl. I drove with her on the dashboard across the country.

    Now I may end up with another cat. My parents had a stray cat that lived on their deck. They set up a little heated house for it and fed it every day. Only they could touch him, anyone else and it would run away. Every time they would go away the cat would disappear for a week or so and then return. This time after we went on our 3 week trip overseas, the cat never returned. They had it for 7 years. They were sad about the cat and talked about that and our other cat that my ex now has. So, I decided to get them a cat. Got the cutest little thing ever and surprised them with it after my mom's bday. They were in love. Now my dad called me and said they don’t want him anymore. Too much work, they don’t want a cat in the house, they want to travel, etc. Buyers remorse, though I bought it. Now I have to figure out what to do with the cat. If no one else wants him, I guess I’ll keep him.

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    How are you feeling now?

    Still on HCG ? - I been doing some reading & I don’t see the point of coming off HCG while trying to revive our nuts

    No other additives? - cialis, Clomid, viagras, trib, longjack, etc.


    Mine “was” a saint till I got to her. Lol

    I agree - don’t think about it, just let it ride - too much thinking will make this much much worse.

    Just figure out a self created plan & stick to it < easier said than done, that I know
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Rumor has it that's an improvement.....
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    That's rhetorical! Always good to see you here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    How are you feeling now?

    Still on HCG ? - I been doing some reading & I don’t see the point of coming off HCG while trying to revive our nuts

    No other additives? - cialis, Clomid, viagras, trib, longjack, etc.


    Mine “was” a saint till I got to her. Lol

    I agree - don’t think about it, just let it ride - too much thinking will make this much much worse.

    Just figure out a self created plan & stick to it < easier said than done, that I know

    I've been feeling ok in general. Sex drive is up and down. I go a few days without any sexual thoughts, then a few days I'm horny again. Taking some Cialis here and there. My dick seems to work better when I'm actually horny. However I have to not beat it for a few days to actually want to have sex. Maybe tmi, but just being honest.

    I feel like I did before I started taking hormones in some ways. I'm more chill but at the same time stupid shit will still bother me. Sometimes I'm exhausted, sometimes I have energy. Sometimes, like today, I feel lethargic all day and can't get myself to do anything. I'm down to 225 from 245. Eating way less than I should be eating. My girl says I'm eating less than her. I still have lingering effects from the appendicitis, like pain in my lower right side and occasional nausea. Can't put it all on stopping TRT. I don't know.

    What have you read about HCG? I got enough HCG to last me a couple of years at least. If I don't have to come off it, I don't think I would. I haven't done blood work yet. I think I should do that soon and maybe a few days after taking HCG so I can see where my LH/FSH and testosterone is.
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    You’re two weeks ahead of me at the moment

    Today is marks three weeks without a shot(that’s the longest I have gone in a decade)

    I feel about the same as you describe

    Been just taking time to do some research on this as I go along. . . What I have found from the Google education system is that both HCG & Clomid are prescribed to up total test & sperm count - HCG doesn’t seem suppressive like any steroid . My nuts are definitely bigger already - so, I’ll take that as a good sign.

    I’m on a handful of supplements now + the HCG. Trying to stay off Clomid - can’t really say this shit will work fast enough before I buckle at the knees and jump back on. But, I’m def trying now - as of a few days ago I have some awful brain fog like shit that just rolls in/out + I feel sore af all over.

    How old r u anyway? I dunno if I missed it somewhere

    At least you weren’t on as long as I have

    Would def like to peel out another kid tho

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    I'm 36 going on 80 how I feel today. Yeah, nuts definitely feeling fuller. Almost back to how they used to be. I hope you're right about the HCG not being suppressive. I think it's dose dependent. Right now I'm on just 300 iu EOD. What are you running? I feel you on the brain fog - got that for days. Weed doesn't help. Feel a little detached sometimes, like I just want to be left alone. My girl is complaining that I'm acting different... well yeah.
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    Same exact shit, wonderful I’m like 1/2 laid out right now. . . It’s annoying af. . . Dick still works tho. . . Hoping for miracles, I guess. Couldn’t even make it into the gym today - energy after my coffee wore off just went to shit

    I’m on 250iu EOD rn. . . The studies that I have read up upon online run guys into high ass doses. I just looked up HCG for
    spermatogenesis - apparently it’s a thing.

    I don’t even smoke weed anymore. Just been drinking more - I think the weed is prob a better for us option tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I'm 36 going on 80 how I feel today. Yeah, nuts definitely feeling fuller. Almost back to how they used to be. I hope you're right about the HCG not being suppressive. I think it's dose dependent. Right now I'm on just 300 iu EOD. What are you running? I feel you on the brain fog - got that for days. Weed doesn't help. Feel a little detached sometimes, like I just want to be left alone. My girl is complaining that I'm acting different... well yeah.
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    Same exact shit, wonderful I’m like 1/2 laid out right now. . . It’s annoying af. . . Dick still works tho. . . Hoping for miracles, I guess. Couldn’t even make it into the gym today - energy after my coffee wore off just went to shit

    I’m on 250iu EOD rn. . . The studies that I have read up upon online run guys into high ass doses. I just looked up HCG for
    spermatogenesis - apparently it’s a thing.

    I don’t even smoke weed anymore. Just been drinking more - I think the weed is prob a better for us option tho
    Y'all MIGHT want to take a look at a topical supplement called "Dermacrine".

    I will let the boo birds die down since that wasn't an AAS recommend...

    Alright, everybody done? Good.

    I have used this product sporadically, usually like a week at a time, both when I was on SERM based HRT and now on legit TRT. Both times I have tried it, it brought mad morning wood. Like wake my ass up in the middle of the night wood. Like, damn CJ* what are you so riled about? Also, you go boy! In fact, I used it for the first time in about 2 months yesterday... I tanked my estrogen with proviron and masteron , and was like "well, it can't hurt". Sure enough, my ding dong woke me up at 4am ready to drive nails.

    TMI, you say? Well, I say I am one of the great American poets, so po-TAY-toe, po-TAH-toe.

    Anyhow, it is basically a DHEA / Pregneolone cream. Apply, give it about 5 to 10 minutes to dry, then dress like normal. There is at least one site that claims it is a 1-DHEA product, but the manufacturer says DHEA. Since you are both using HCG, you have a sufficient "test base" in case it IS actually 1-DHEA.

    Disclaimers: I'm not a rep. I can't promise it will work for you. I speak only what I have experienced with this product. This is not the first time I have written about it here, you can probably find my previous ramblings by searching the site for "dermacrine". I also use about half the recommended dose. And I usually only run it for a week or two, I probably should give it a good try to see if it continues to work or needs to be cycled off.

    That's all I got...

    * = CJ means "Cylon Junior"
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    This is the study I tracked down online

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29772111/
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    Thanks guys. Samson, that’s encouraging information. I’ll read the full study when I have some time, just read the conclusions. At 300 units of HCG EOD I’m almost asexual lol. I guess I had secondary hypogonadism…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Thanks guys. Samson, that’s encouraging information. I’ll read the full study when I have some time, just read the conclusions. At 300 units of HCG EOD I’m almost asexual lol. I guess I had secondary hypogonadism…
    Hey Test sometimes it takes a while for everything to come back, in my opinion pct works for some and not for others but I did a few cycles in my 20’s and it literally took me a year or more to get straightened out completely, I stayed off for 7 years after that, the only other thing I would recommend is pushing yourself to do cardio it seems like that helped me with the anabolic lag and a good endorphin release, and I always keep a stash of viagra, cialis or whatever to make sure I can function in that respect as well, hang in there man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Thanks guys. Samson, that’s encouraging information. I’ll read the full study when I have some time, just read the conclusions. At 300 units of HCG EOD I’m almost asexual lol. I guess I had secondary hypogonadism…
    Well, I’m still off also - definitely get the no sexual part. But, I got my dick working so far.

    Cialis+multi dosed viagra+Spoon fulls of LArginine < dick hasn’t let me down yet. It’s very difficult to get in the mood, porn + more porn & it’s like - I gotta do this rn. Lol - yeah, def not my usual day to day that’s for sure

    I have Clomid on order & I'm bumping up my HCG

    Just talked to a friend of mine, apparently a lot of “us” go through this type of scenario. He said Clomid(it’s what he used, but couldn’t recall his dosage), HCG - maybe. It took him 5 months to knock up wife #2. One month down for me as of tomorrow - fingers are crossed

    Quote Originally Posted by Testie View Post
    the only other thing I would recommend is pushing yourself to do cardio it seems like that helped me with the anabolic lag and a good endorphin release
    I have been contemplating this Vs weight training. I’m doing short bursts of cardio of about 15 minutes + weight training. I just don’t want this muscle suit to fall off while I’m going through this.
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    Another update. Almost 2.5 months. Taking around 300 units of HCG every other day.. when I remember. I’ve gone 4 days in a row without taking it, just very inconsistent. When you do this for the purpose of bodybuilding it’s a lot different than when the last thing you want to do is lift.

    So, still no lifting. Cardio here and there. Been cold as shit, like 20 degrees out, so even my biking has stopped.

    Sex drive has not improved much. I kinda feel like I did before starting TRT when I was with my ex, which is not a good thing. Toward the end of that relationship I never wanted sex with her, but her friends? I’m just not turned on by typical regular sex with the same old person, it’s messed up. Like I would gladly fuck a slutty little stripper, as an example, even with a hypothetical total T of 200, but my beautiful respectable gf, nah. When I was on test I at least still wanted to do it but now It’s like I just want to get it over with unless it’s something fresh or porn.

    Still haven’t done blood work. Overall feeling fine. I get sore doing the easiest things now but my cardio is so much better. I even lowered my bp meds in half (the lisinopril not the beta blocker), and like I mentioned before, stopped using the CPAP since I don’t snore much any longer.

    I start feeling some kinda way sometimes when I’m watching a movie and some juiced up guys are on there acting like typical soldiers from the Middle Ages.. like yeah they barely had anything to eat but they look like regional level competitors. I sometimes can’t help but comme t? but it makes me miss the “old me,” not that I was anything special then.

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    With low sex drive no wonder you dont want to bang the gf. Its not because gf but because hormones. Why no lifting? If you drop lifting and trt both you gonna loose alot more then if you kept lifting. Also lifting increases testosterone . You dont have to do high volume routine. Twice a week full body with 3-4 sets bench’ squatz pulldowns etc will suffice. Even once a week is better then 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    With low sex drive no wonder you dont want to bang the gf. Its not because gf but because hormones. Why no lifting? If you drop lifting and trt both you gonna loose alot more then if you kept lifting. Also lifting increases testosterone. You dont have to do high volume routine. Twice a week full body with 3-4 sets bench’ squatz pulldowns etc will suffice. Even once a week is better then 0.
    Completely agreed on all

    Unfortunately it’s not her/them, it’s us - I was banging away on the wife like a steel drum till my test bottomed out. Same in my first marriage till I reached late 20’s & had a test count of mid 300’s - back then I didn’t even know what it meant & my MD gave me a RX for viagra

    I worked out the whole two months I managed to stay off. Haven’t lost strength or size - def didn’t have a pump feeling tho.

    Unfortunately my attempt of bringing back my fertility is over
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Completely agreed on all

    Unfortunately it’s not her/them, it’s us - I was banging away on the wife like a steel drum till my test bottomed out. Same in my first marriage till I reached late 20’s & had a test count of mid 300’s - back then I didn’t even know what it meant & my MD gave me a RX for viagra

    I worked out the whole two months I managed to stay off. Haven’t lost strength or size - def didn’t have a pump feeling tho.

    Unfortunately my attempt of bringing back my fertility is over
    Didnt someone say here that guys who use trt as birth control are called daddy? If you practice non safe sex then maybe a miracle will happen some day
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