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    I think Victor Martinez has what it takes, but being a relative rookie as a pro, it may depend on how long it is before Ronnie retires for him. If Ronnie retires in a couple of years I think Dexter Jackson has the edge. His improvements in the last year have been amazing.

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    Get your info straight

    Quote Originally Posted by bigol'legs


    dennis james is 5'7" and 272 on stage....

    Dennis James is 5'8" to start out. NOT 5'7". He doesn't even compete CLOSE to 272lbs. He competes in the mid 250's. At the oylmpia he weighed 253lbs. What are you talking about? Get you **** straight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboudian
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    To those who think Dexter is better than Jay, just look at Jay's conditioning in 2001.

    Why should we look at his conditioning in 2001 it's practically 2004. He may never hit that again. I give mad props to the guy and don't hate on him but Dexter Jackson deserves what's coming to him.

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    I believe that Jay Cutler will reign supreme due to his enormous size. However, if Dexter Jackson can bulk up, he will make a close run. Other guys to lookout for would include Dennis James and Victor Martinez.

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    I would have to go with Cutler, but James could do it too.

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    To me it seems that Jackson has the best physique out of any of the pros. He's the only one without that godawful midsection.

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    If james improves is quads and back then he will be very hard to bet, but coleman will have to retire before we see anyone win.

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    in 2 years its going to be Markus Rhul turn

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    2025 is in 21 years! NOT 12. Nice one.

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    Yea there will be - Markus Ruhl but he's 5'10, he he

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    gunther was like 305 at the arnold classic

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    it will be cutler, like it or not. but then the next dynasty could be FEDEROV. keep watching.

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    "it will be cutler, like it or not. but then the next dynasty could be FEDEROV. keep watching."

    DONT WATCH THE SHOWS DRUNK OR ON DOPE..... cutler will never win the O

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadbal
    "it will be cutler, like it or not. but then the next dynasty could be FEDEROV. keep watching."

    DONT WATCH THE SHOWS DRUNK OR ON DOPE..... cutler will never win the O

    really? well if if coleman is not there(like after he retires), then im guessing the next in line guy will be jay. jay will win atleast one mr o. i dont see him running a string like tha past mr o's, but time will tell. if i watch the o high or not, it doesnt change who the winner will be.

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    Jay Cutler or Dexter Jackson

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    well.... arugueing aside, it looks likw we have it narrowed down to cutler or jackson.
    james cant win with the high lats he has. im not knocking james, hes nasty, but not complete.

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    Cutler is next. Cutler is to Coleman as Yates was to Haney.

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    The Blade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ616
    Who do you think will be the next Mr. Oylmpia. And Why? ( after Coleman Retires )

    Be real, and don't pick your favorite.
    I would say cutler.

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    I don't really like Ronnie's physique because of his HUGE HGH abs. But he will still probably win. When he retires, probably Jay Cutler. Possibly Matt Duval - he just got his IFBB pro card a little wihle ago and he is huge. In two years he could probably have a chance of winning. He's like 5'11 or 6'0 and 315lbs.

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    No way its gonna be cutler, Its def going to be dexter jackson.

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    cutler has the hype, i hope he isnt, id rather see cormeir, or maybe ruhl, both have better physiques to me..

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    I Think Ronnie Will Be There Until He Retires. If It Would Be Soon I Would Go With Cutler,then Dennis James.

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    ronnie til he retires, but dexter is next IMO.

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    We all know it's gonna be Jay...

    Size is what they (the judges)

    want in a Mr. Olympia...

    Samir and other smaller former
    champs are a thing of the past

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    Its not gonna be jay, If they judged on size they would go with gunter before jay...

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    Jay has more of the complete package...
    Unless he really screws up it's his to lose...

    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    Its not gonna be jay, If they judged on size they would go with gunter before jay...

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    Cutler is only popular at this point because he's white and american. He's a white, american, has been/never was.

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    Chris you almost always have really good points of view, but
    can you look at Jay in top shape and honestly think that?

    I've followed Pro's since the mid 80's and his physique in top
    shape is one of the best I've ever seen bar none... Being white
    has nothing to do with it at all... Anyone that thinks that is crazy...

    I guess if Mike Francois had never gotten sick and won the
    Mr. Olympia then the story about him would have been the same?

    Come on all that white/black crap is just political B.S.

    Jay is a deserving future Mr. Olympia if he can come in top shape...

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisAdams
    Cutler is only popular at this point because he's white and american. He's a white, american, has been/never was.

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    That white crap is BS. "Blacks" / "people of color" have always placed in the top ranks even in early bodybuilding. Let's not forget the Haney era okay... and Labrada was right up there for a number of years and he's Cuban. When Yates was next, it was because he was off-the-hook! Nobody could deny that. The majority of top pros are black and place well. I'm not a Cutler fan but if Jay wins it's because of the size issue.
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    I have been following this thread for a while and it really depends on when Coleman retires. Judging from the recent placings at the shows, there is definitely a trend towards a more streamlined physique. One that has better symetry and not just mass.
    If Coleman were to retire this year it would be a hard call.
    If Coleman sticks around for two - three more years, then anyone who can't see the potential of Richard Jones is blind. If he brings up his legs and puts a little more size on his arms, he can do some serious damage.
    Granted, it really has to do with the judging trend at the time.
    If they continue to stay with the mass is more attitude, then guys like Dexter and Jones don't have a chance. They would give up too much of the "look" they have now to compete at a much higher bodyweight.

    Sal

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    Jay cutler

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    Of course we knew you were gonna say that...

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    Haha, I think coleman will win until he bows out of the game, and i think dexter jackson will be the next mr. O.

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    cutler.

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    If Ronnie retires tommorow jay will take his place and thats not opinion its fact, cos look at the 2003 olimpia jay was ahead by 6 points a prejudging and that usually means game over so you can tell that his the next best thing and then id say definately Dexter Jackson.

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    I think cutler stands to take it he's young and still growing...i just hope he doesnt go so crazzy on his dieting and cardio in the future last time i say him he was reeeeeaaaaalll lean but it looked like he lost alot of muscle

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    the next mr.o will come out of nowhere just like they all did in the past,no present big name will be the next mr.o.when you will see him you will know .........just like lee haney did or dorian or coleman there will be no second guess .the next mr.o will be something no one could of thought possible just like we all thought of the previous mr.o's .so ladie's and gentlemen when the next mr.o steps on stage we will all stand in awe before him and that persons name is mr. alexandre federov!

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    I dunno about you guys but those recent pics of Rhul were pretty good, hes gotten hella better in the past years. He could do some def. damage in the future. But as for Mr. O its a toss up, I think it should go to the Blade(this is after Ronnie retires of course), because his body is the best, although Cutler is massive and very good. I dunno its hard to tell. **** Dennis James got real big though (tough to tell). But Ill go ahead and say the Blade

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    Quote Originally Posted by shreaded
    the next mr.o will come out of nowhere just like they all did in the past,no present big name will be the next mr.o.when you will see him you will know .........just like lee haney did or dorian or coleman there will be no second guess .the next mr.o will be something no one could of thought possible just like we all thought of the previous mr.o's .so ladie's and gentlemen when the next mr.o steps on stage we will all stand in awe before him and that persons name is mr. alexandre federov!
    Federov is years away (but could def. get there)

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