Norma Hellas Deca and Karachi Sustanon 250 real or fake guys

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 07:40 AM

ok what we have here is deca and sus and what id like to know is what you guys think, as something is screaming alarm bells at me, i order these and i was happy at first glance to say the lease, but on further inspection i relized that one of these deca were a fake, well so i think anyways the one with the gray cap and smaller than the rest no hologram on it clear substance inside and the tops turned real easy and has the blue logo printed on the bottle.the rest are slightly bigger black cap and have the hologram on the lable and with the red logo on the bottle and tops tond turn so easy. now this is what concerns me is that when i got these deliverd all them were taped together and wraped very neatly and padded so they could be posted through your letter box when i opened them i noticed that all the dates and batch codes were removed so i contacted this person and he said that they do it to protect them selfs as they get it directly from the manufacturers which sounded good at the time but when i saw that fake i thought if they can get fake ones what is stopping them from making all the rest fake and why dose some look real did they put a fake on in to hide the fact that the rest of the deca was better fakes who knows hope you guys can help thanks in advance

ps i just want to make sure before i uae them and my ass falls of lol.

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***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 07:52 AM

sus looks good to go. I dont know the other brand.

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 08:10 AM

so they ok then bud thanks for your time bud

***El Diablo*** · 03-12-2008, 08:12 AM

Sure mate, dont quote me on the Nandrolone though, has i said im not sure never even seen that.. But the Sust.. ? Most Def!

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 08:15 AM

thanks again EL Diablo

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 08:49 AM

so dose any you guys know if the decas real or not then ????????????

PT · 03-12-2008, 10:06 AM

i cant be certain on the sust but the deca looks perfect to me.

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 11:18 AM

pietro75 is that a certainty bud as i def have a fake i think, do you think the one with the gray cap is a suspect lol . you just cant tell these days is theres a fake or not ????

**psycorelm** · 03-12-2008, 11:20 AM

both are defenedly fake.

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 11:22 AM

psycrelm how can you tell bud ,so i can know for my selfs and i dont get ripped off again

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 11:25 AM

thought the was hard to counterfeit the hologram ones when i was shineing it under a light i saw the Norma Hellas logo with little stars.

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 12:15 PM

also iv just been reading on this site that if you put it in the freezer it will go cloudy so i did that and it did go cloudy also i put them back in and they froze in ten minute and when i took them out they defrosted in a minute dont know if that meens anything but one you guy out there could may be know thanks

**Markosterone** · 03-12-2008, 12:28 PM

the one with the grey rubber is fake i think.

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 12:48 PM

Markosrerone thats what i think but why would they throw that in the same batch i bought got to get you thinking like i think im screwed as iv tryed a few things to see if they are real ,froze them as you know tasted not drunk them lol my mouth did go numb but just not sure think iv got scrap liquid here guys 2 for a pound lol

**swordfish** · 03-12-2008, 01:46 PM

well has any one had these deliverd ?????????????? or even use them

**MichaelCC** · 03-13-2008, 02:25 AM

sorry bro, but I cannot see LOT and EXP strings on your NORMA amps - maybe it's just becasue of my eyes

or bad angles, while you were taking picture. But you wrote about it - they were removed .... it cannot be like this. Why they removed EXP and LOT - to protect who ?
Second thing - both label ends has to been with rounded corners - you amps has rounded only one side.
3-rd think - real NORMA has ALWAYS black rubber.
take a look at the real normas I posted some months ago ...
NEW labeled nandrolone decanaote 200mg Greece (with hologram label)
My opinion - throw them away to the garbage or send it back to you supplier and want your $$, 'casue this is definitelly NOT, how real norma should look like

**psycorelm** · 03-13-2008, 06:19 AM

what you michaelCC think about this karachi sustanons wich has matrixdot printed exp. dates. i thought they are all fake.

**swordfish** · 03-13-2008, 07:13 AM

Michaelcc thanks bud for the info im so dissipointed now but that what i get for ordering it off the net i supose

**jaydub** · 03-13-2008, 07:24 AM

then norma deca 's are some of the most commonly faked gear out there. Michaelcc's right about the label corners and lot/exp #'s. I'd be very suspiscious of it....

**swordfish** · 03-13-2008, 09:04 AM

ok lads this is what i did i contacted this company and this is there quots

Dear Sir, Simon Hardy, this is the letter from our department:
ALL NANDROLONE - NORMA ARE 100% ORIGINAL !!!!
AS WAS ONE OF MORE COUNTERFEIT PRODUCTS , MR TSALIKIS THE OWNER OF
NORMA HELLAS COMPANY , 2 OR 3 TIMES A YEAR TRY TO MAKE CHANGES ON
THIS CERTAIN PRODUCT SO WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR SOMEBODY TO
COUNTERFEIT IT!!
FOR THIS , SOME AMPULES ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS...
http://www.normahellas.gr/uk/products_det.asp?PrID=1
ANY QUESTION YOU HAVE , YOU CAN CONTACT DIRECTLY
NORMA HELLAS S.A.
Pharmaceutical Industry
Ìenandrou 54, 10431 Athens GREECE
Email: [email protected]

YOU CAN SEND ALL PHOTOS YOU HAVE AND ALL THE DETAILS YOU HAVE !!!!
AND ASK THEM IF ARE REAL OR FAKE ??!!!!

SUSTANON COMES FROM KARACHI - PAKISTAN ORGANON THAT ARE THE ONLY
ONE WORLDWIDE THAT CANNOT BE COUNTEFEIT AS ARE SILK PRINTED AND
HAVE NO LABELS...
THE ONE THAT HAVE LABEL IN EUROPE COMES FROM PORTUGAL AND COST 9
EURO APOTHEKE PRICE... YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN FIND THEM ON THE NET
IN THIS PRICE THAT YOU BUY THE PAKISTAN ONE S AND WILL BE REAL ??!!
WE PUT THE EMPTY BOX OF TESTOVIRON AS A PROMOTION AND ALSO IN ORDER
TO FIT GOOD THE PRODUCTS IN THE ENVELOPE !!!!!

PT · 03-13-2008, 01:41 PM

post a close up of the words "deca " and the date and i will tell you if there real or fake

**niterunner** · 03-13-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by pietro75

post a close up of the words "deca" and the date and i will tell you if there real or fake

.>i noticed that all the dates and batch codes were removed <
how can he put the dates on when they have been REMOVED
AND YOUR GOING TO TELL HIM WEATHER THERE REAL OR FAKE

**nowdenlid** · 03-13-2008, 04:03 PM

sustonon is fake 100% that b/n dont excist . and it is micro-dot stamp witch is a gie away..

not sure in the deca do you have the box??

if so put it under a uv light and there should be a holigram on the sticker that is on the box..

PT · 03-13-2008, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by niterunner

.>i noticed that all the dates and batch codes were removed <
how can he put the dates on when they have been REMOVED
AND YOUR GOING TO TELL HIM WEATHER THERE REAL OR FAKE

well little boy if there isnt dates then its fake. unlike your stupied self i can look at the date and lettering of any bottle of deca and tell you if its real or fake. now since you never contributed a damn thing to this board get back to your video games. your an idiot and you better think twice before insulting someone like me ever again.

**niterunner** · 03-14-2008, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by niterunner

.>i noticed that all the dates and batch codes were removed <
how can he put the dates on when they have been REMOVED
AND YOUR GOING TO TELL HIM WEATHER THERE REAL OR FAKE

PT · 03-14-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by niterunner

your soooo funny little boy. i can tell why you got screwed out of those bd decas, he probably saw you coming a mile away. mabye those years of beenies did more damage to your brain then you thought bro. obviously your a jobless lowlife if your able to sleep 12 hour nights when your poping pills.

**CheddaNips** · 03-14-2008, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by pietro75

your soooo funny little boy. i can tell why you got screwed out of those bd decas, he probably saw you coming a mile away. mabye those years of beenies did more damage to your brain then you thought bro. obviously your a jobless lowlife if your able to sleep 12 hour nights when your poping pills.

Dont get why kids come on here insulting vets

**niterunner** · 03-14-2008, 02:24 PM

think twice before insulting someone like me ever again.
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**swordfish** · 03-15-2008, 08:39 AM

ok lads never got boxes, as they deliverd them through the letter box like a package ,they were all taped together all neat and tidy so not to cause suspition, my friend took one of each the other day and he said he's fine, he's braver than me to say the least allso if it would help i could tell you the site i got them from if you were to post your email addy as im new to this and dont think i can post a web site on here can i thanks for hanging in there with me