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What do you guys think of that 100% RAW fed. I was thinking about joining it. Next year I am going to do an equipped fed and unequipped. But I aint sure which ones to enter. I'll have alot on my plate between PL, Strongman and oly style weightlifting.
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I forgot to mention, did you guys see Beau Moore lost in the 100% RAW world championships. The winner (whose name I forget but was an italian name) had some good numbers.
Retired "hall of famer/elite powerlifter"
nick menti or meneti. 800 raw squat. i think the raw feds are great, i do more raw meets than equiped. 100%raw is good also th adau is a raw organization, the wnpf offers a raw division at all there meets.Originally Posted by Velkar182
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I'm all for it. I may compete w/ gear now but I like to see raw numbers always... it's the truest test of strength no doubt... I believe there is a place for both and think it would be cool to have more people cross over and compete in both... me included.
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raw meets are alot more fun. less hassle when you dont have to but on the equipment. my only complaint is training the squat raw. it is never fun.
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It seems like 100% RAW is on the rise. I might enter this next year. I am just still a bit shocked that Moore only squatted 685. Didn't he have the all time record of 11-something until Miller cracked 1200? Did he get injured? I would love to go heads up with them boys but I can't deadlift for poop. The fact that they have me in the bench doesn't help either. For now I'll just aspire.
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It just occurred to me that 100% RAW is tested. I don't know Minnetti, but I am pretty sure I have heard that Moore is all about aas. I could be wrong. Maybe he is clean now?
Retired "hall of famer/elite powerlifter"
if you play the game right and know the detection times, anybody could be clean for a drug test with the correct doses. moore did crack 1100 suited, and 685 without. , m miller cracked 1220 and got only a 600 squat at the NERB. all of these so called gods of powerlifting are not as untouchable as we all think. they have access to unlimited gear and unlimited alterations of there equipment that gives them an edge over a regular joe shmoe who has to spend $200 every time they need a new shirt. take the"gear" and take the equipment away from these guys, they are mortal men like the rest of us IMO
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also the NASA has raw meets as well
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Moore only squatting 685= Raw and tested????
Perhaps eh?
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I guess raw and equipped are truly two different sports.
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Raw
Equipped
a. One Ply
b. Two ply
c. fabric that's used
Rules from Federation to Federation
Tested
Untested
All these factors show the many different faces of powerlifting...and also why powerlifting will never gain mainstream popularity.
Retired "hall of famer/elite powerlifter"
to many variables. the only way for powerlifting to bcome an olympic sport would be through a raw tested ,strict rule federation.i doubt it will ever happen
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So why not to standardize and unify the fractions, strongman used to be like that, but now it is more centralized.
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The best way for me to explain this would be like asking everyone else to switch over their religion to the same one. A bit harsh analogy but the priciple is the same.
Each organization thinks they are the best with the most appropriate format to run meets, determine judges/rules etc...Most of the organizations are independantly owned which would take a chunk of change out of the Owner's pocket if he/she didn't have sole contol over sanctions.
Too many egos. Alot of federations came about because of arguements within existing feds. One guy gets pissed off, says "screw you" and starts up his own fed.
You have the right idea kdawg, but it will never happen.
Retired "hall of famer/elite powerlifter"
money will never let this be organized, alot of people make a living off of there federation and having meets. also to many variables, should the unfied fed be raw?drug free? drug full? one ply? 2 ply? unlimited ply?pause on the press? squat bellow paralell? is belly benching legal? suicide grip? can you stand on your toes when you press or have to be flat footed? etc etc etc. you can never get everyone to agree to one set of rules. the only way this could work would be the IOC would pick one federation to be the qualifying platform for the olympics with one set of rules. the other federtions would slowly disapear or become more like backyard events, and the top organiztion would florish, if it was to happen right now, USAPL would probably be the one that would get the bid, i DONT agree with any of there nosense, i think they are the best organized federation, but they have to may nonsense rules which makes lifting suck(no monolift, no suicide grip, no belly pressing, no double ply gear, no denim or canvas,strict judgeing that is so strict they red light you for smiling to much..list keeps going) i have afriend who swears by the fed, and i dsgee with him all the time, that particular organiztion is so closed minded to progression in the sport, they are the "amish people"of powerlifting. they dont like change and they try to keep lifting the same way it was in the early 60's so nobody of today has a better advantage than those guys back in the day, this cant be done considering the evolution of single ply equipment. evolution in any sport is necessary and it always happens, from basketball to badmitten to golf, the game and equipment changes. there is a word for those who dont adapt to change or progress with time, its called extinction!
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