Dynamic training

[Velkar182]

I was thinking of doing a butt load of plyometrics, focusing more on dynamic effort lifts and Oly styl weightlifting for a while. Has anyone tried this? There is a martial arts guy I am getting to meet in the next couple of weeks named Parino (sp?) and he has trained with basically only high velocity training, be it weights or plyos. I heard he has benched 390lbs at 136 (I'd have to see it to believe it), but doesn't powerlift. He's known for training secret service, navy seals and he also teaches Troy Polamalu.

[kdawg21]

Plyo is great, it is what makes the West side program so successful, but too much ply/dynamic work could be too taxing on the CNS and actually lead to regression. As the West side program has shown a good balance between ME and DE work is essential to a good program.

[Doc.Sust]

I was thinking of doing a butt load of plyometrics, focusing more on dynamic effort lifts and Oly styl weightlifting for a while. Has anyone tried this? There is a martial arts guy I am getting to meet in the next couple of weeks named Parino (sp?) and he has trained with basically only high velocity training, be it weights or plyos. I heard he has benched 390lbs at 136 (I'd have to see it to believe it), but doesn't powerlift. He's known for training secret service, navy seals and he also teaches Troy Polamalu.

i did a huge cycle of ply traing and had grat results using jump squats,catch and toss press. medicine ball drop and throw(for chest)cleans,cleans and more cleans, jump rope, and boxjumping . i did all of these as my only auxillary liftsi startedthe program by doing my core lift of the day first, keeping it lighter tan normal,working heavier when getting clos to peaking. i also but my protege on the same program. the kid complained for wks"this program is stupid, i am getting weaker, balh blah blah...) any way long sory short, it took my dead and press to new heights, (double my body weigh raw in a contest and over a 600 dead at 181lbs) my buddy at 19yo, drug free and raw did a 315 press and a 570 deadlift. the program worked wonders for both of us.

[Velkar182]

That's crazy doc, your a beast. My concern was the CNS and everything I do is oriented around CNS progression above all. I was think about doing a fourteen day routine in which I lift nine days. It would be like this.

4 days oly style weight lifting and plyos
2 days max effort squat and bench (1 each)
2 auxiliary work (for bis and whatever, but this is more for endurance than anything)
1 day strongman event training (includes DL for reps)

I sure wish a WSM competitor had a training site. It is a guessing gam on how to train for the events. Steve Kirit lives in town here and I can't so much as get an email address to ask him pointers. Or more interestingly where he trained in town. Feel free to make suggestions, because chances are that you have more of a clue than I do as to how I should train for a strongman.

[Doc.Sust]

That's crazy doc, your a beast. My concern was the CNS and everything I do is oriented around CNS progression above all. I was think about doing a fourteen day routine in which I lift nine days. It would be like this.

4 days oly style weight lifting and plyos
2 days max effort squat and bench (1 each)
2 auxiliary work (for bis and whatever, but this is more for endurance than anything)
1 day strongman event training (includes DL for reps)

I sure wish a WSM competitor had a training site. It is a guessing gam on how to train for the events. Steve Kirit lives in town here and I can't so much as get an email address to ask him pointers. Or more interestingly where he trained in town. Feel free to make suggestions, because chances are that you have more of a clue than I do as to how I should train for a strongman.

to be honest i know very little for training for a strongman. the only thin i know for sure is you have to increase you endurance(gpp) as high and primarily do the same events or close to the same events as your training exercise. haveing access to a log lift,firemans carry etc etc. there is a gym by me that specialize in strong man training, they have tires for guys to flip and cars to flip, along with the atlas stones, the log and all the other goodies. Pm me if you are intrested and i will se what info i can get for you, there have to be some people there who have sufficent training experience.

also with your program, it looks like quite a bit much. it may be to rough on the old cns, only way to find out is to try it, if it seems to much, next workout cycle , drop the volume down a little. i see waht you are trying to do, train olympic, BBing, plifting, and bbing all smacked together, truth of the matter is, a jack of all trades is a master at nothing. i think it is possible to do this, but you wouldnt excell to your fullest potential in any of the sports. to be your best, one is better traing for the sport of highest priority first

[Velkar182]

Honestly, everything I do makes me grow. I have been doing oly training and the day before yesterday I did a max effort deadlift up to a heavy single. I haven't cracked 600 in competition, but I locked out 625 @ 331.8 bwt. Pretty sweet huh?!

[Doc.Sust]

Honestly, everything I do makes me grow. I have been doing oly training and the day before yesterday I did a max effort deadlift up to a heavy single. I haven't cracked 600 in competition, but I locked out 625 @ 331.8 bwt. Pretty sweet huh?!

velkar remember you are young, anything you do in these early years will give you strength, you want to find the best way to make the quickest gains before the window of opportunity closes and you get older and your natural test levels start to drop. thats when training counts the most, when it is harder to make gains. but hey ,congrats on the deadlift, sounds like your newest approach is working great. keep up the great work

[Velkar182]

Don't forget doc, I am sort of in off season from PL. IN previous years I did either BB or nothing for 3-4 months (I worked technique mostly for PL). And this year there wasn't really a post season for me in the usapl because I started juicing instead of competing. I did this mostly to avoid the past embarrassment I faced at Nationals where it seems most folks were on juice.
When it comes time to peak for powerlifting, I'll be ready. After this little experiment I'll have a couple weeks off before getting ready to compete. I just have to figure out which fed. One thing is for sure, I used to be really shaky with over 600 on my back and since I've been doing front squats and carrying my makeshift husafel stone, that is no longer the case. But mostly I am excited about the DL, especially because of my short arms and the progress I have had inspite. Confusion induces growth.