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    my routine for the next equiped 3 lift meet

    thanks too advice and modifications from Doc,i've put together a masterpeice lol,i don't know about that but i will run this routine for my next full meet.

    the split,
    sunday-off
    monday-sq/dl
    tuesday-raw bench
    wedn-off
    thurs-sq de / upper back
    fri-off
    saturday-bench ME
    (i'll be running it at a 6 day split due too my shift work)

    SQUAT

    %=previous equiped max

    wk
    1. 70%x2
    2. 75%x2
    3. 80%x2
    4. 75%x2
    5. 80%x2
    6. 85%x2
    7. 80%x2
    8. 85%x2
    9. 90%x1,95-100% walk out
    10. 60-70% x 5
    11. max

    wks 1-3 raw box sqs with bands,use enough band tension too equal your previous equiped max at the top of the lift but keeping the corect % at the bottom
    wks 4-6 full ROM suited straps down,no wraps
    wks 7-9 full ROM suited straps up,no wraps
    wk 10 use raw %'s,deload

    DEAD LIFT

    %-previous equiped max

    wk
    1.65%x2
    2.70%x2
    3.75%x2
    4.80%x2 x 2
    5.70%x2
    6.75%x2,DE 50% 3x2
    7.80%x2,DE 55% 3x2
    8.85%x2,DE 60% 3x2
    9.90%x1,DE 65% 1x2
    10. REST
    11. max

    wks 1-4 done raw using equiped %'s
    wks 5-9 suited,straps down on wks 5-8,straps up on wk 9,DE is perfprmed raw using equiped %'s

    BENCH RAW with minis

    wk
    1. 50% 8x3 paused
    2. 55% 8x3 paused
    3. 60% 8x3 paused
    4. 65% 8x3 paused
    5. 70% 6x3 paused
    6. 75% 6x3 paused
    7. 80% 3x3 touch n go,50%3x3 paused
    8. 85% 3x3 touch n go,55%3x3 paused
    9. 90% 1x3 touch n go,60%3x3 paused
    10.65% x5
    11. max

    notes=do not use bands any stronger than the mnis,it will conflict with your ME day
    notes=as a secondary really give your tris and bis a good working over 6x10-15

    BENCH ME bands / chains are optional,your preference in weight and strengths

    wk
    1. CG 3brd 3-5 RM
    2. CG 3brd 3-5 RM
    3. 4brd 1-3 RM
    4. 4brd 1-3 RM
    5. shirted
    6. shirted
    7. CG 3brd 3-5 RM
    8. CG 3brd 3-5 RM
    9. 4brd 1-3 RM
    10.4brd 1-3 RM
    11 meet.

    notes=take a WSBB aproach on this day,do not use any brds lower than the 3 brd due too the raw day's % increase

    SQ DE / UPPER BACK

    SQ de= ypu can use mini cycles or one set %,35-65% of your raw 1RM

    UPPER BACK=upper back only!,hers mine for example,
    T-bar=4-5x6-8
    weighted wide grip chins=3x12-15
    shrugs super setted with rear lat flys=3xfailure



    these are just the primary lifts,you can use what ever assisstance excercises you like on the big 3 just don't go all out on them,use them for more rehab and volume instead of going heavy,i personally rotate my aux or assisstance excercices every 2 wks.

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    9. 4brd 1-3 RM
    10.4brd 1-3 RM

    do shirted work instead of doing brd work this close to the meet, wk 9 i would use the shirt and figure out my opener, wk 10 i would de-load and take it easy

    as far as your raw day, i dont see a point working up to 90% with mini bands. you are just looking to fry your cns. keep the percent 65% and under, no reason to go heavier. if you feel like you want to hold some heavy weights, do some lockouts after the speed work or some high boards

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    thanks for the advice Doc.
    the reason i put the boards before the meet and the shirt work back too wks 5 n 6,is that my last meet i trained shirted 2 wks out from the meet and i felt real weak at the 3-4 brd height height,but i was alo trying too get the shirt broke in at the same time,i just figured that since i know what my opener is now all i would have to do is remind my body of the groove of the shirt.

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    did you get my PM by the way?

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    and what does the DL look like too you?

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    is this better,

    BENCH ME

    wk
    1. 3 brd
    2. 3 brd
    3. shirted
    4. shirted
    5. 2 brd
    6. 2 brd
    7. 4 brd
    8. 4 brd
    9. shirted
    10.deload
    11.meet

    DE=50-65% 72hrs later

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    did you get my PM by the way?
    i dont hink i did. did i respond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    is this better,

    BENCH ME

    wk
    1. 3 brd
    2. 3 brd
    3. shirted
    4. shirted
    5. 2 brd
    6. 2 brd
    7. 4 brd
    8. 4 brd
    9. shirted
    10.deload
    11.meet

    DE=50-65% 72hrs later
    better. i would still do 2 wks in the shirt before deload

    honestly i use my shirt ALOT before a meet, i found to get stronger using the shirt you need to use the shirt. i usually work 2 wks in the shirt , one wk out of the shirt, i know others that use the shirt every other wk, this is probably your best bet IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    and what does the DL look like too you?
    do you plan on doing the squat and dead on the same day? i recently started doing this. i have found if one is to do this, you may have to ligthen up some of the volume because the squat is going to wear you out. play it by ear lift how you feel, i also recomend roating some dead exercise for the ME movement, band deads, rack pulls, pulling off 2 inch blocks, SLDL. also dont be afraid to take a wk off if you feel beat up.

    .take a look at my sticky on andy bolotn, i added recently the exact dead routine he used to pull 1000lbs, he squated and deadlifted same day, the last 8 wks the heaviest he worked up to was 75% one or 2 wks out from the meet, he primarily pulled for speed. the 6 wk micro cycel before this 8wk pr contest cycle, he worked up to 900lbs or so for a triple and very heavy rack pulls

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    done,i'll put 2 wks of shirt work before the deload wk.
    i'm also scared too put my shirt on too often due too my opener is so close too my max (25lb. difference),in turn i would be training well above the 90% mark out of my shirt,thats why i decided too do 2wk waves of shirt work every 6 wks,too keep from crashing my CNS before a meet.

    i'll shoot you another PM.

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    i might have accidently sent it by email,so check both,let me know if you got it or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    do you plan on doing the squat and dead on the same day? i recently started doing this. i have found if one is to do this, you may have to ligthen up some of the volume because the squat is going to wear you out. play it by ear lift how you feel, i also recomend roating some dead exercise for the ME movement, band deads, rack pulls, pulling off 2 inch blocks, SLDL. also dont be afraid to take a wk off if you feel beat up.

    .take a look at my sticky on andy bolotn, i added recently the exact dead routine he used to pull 1000lbs, he squated and deadlifted same day, the last 8 wks the heaviest he worked up to was 75% one or 2 wks out from the meet, he primarily pulled for speed. the 6 wk micro cycel before this 8wk pr contest cycle, he worked up to 900lbs or so for a triple and very heavy rack pulls
    yes i plan on training my sq and dl on the same day,
    i'm going to work uo too the correct % in doubles or singles following the sq routine,and the same for dl's,so far as secondary and aux. maybe some light hams and ext. followedby abs,i was going too put a little more volume n my legs on the sq de/upper back day.
    so far as mixing the primary dl movements up on the sq/dl day i wouldn't know which and were too use what movements on what days so thats why i decided too work up in %'s,i don't have but 2 trs of dl training experiance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    i might have accidently sent it by email,so check both,let me know if you got it or not
    got nothing

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    all and all it looks good. giveit a shot and lets see how it works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    got nothing

    i'll shoot a PM to you again, PM me your email and i'll shoot it too you that way.

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    hows this for getting my shirted bench right,

    BENCH ME
    wk
    1. raw 2brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    2. raw 2brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    3. raw 4brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    4. raw 4brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    5. deload
    6. shirted 3rm,raw 2 brd 5rm
    7. shirted 3rm,raw 2 brd 5rm
    8. shirted 1-3rm,raw 4brd 5rm
    9. shirted 1-3rm,raw 4brd 5rm
    10.deload
    11.meet

    bench de-50-65% 72hrs later

    a member from another brd suggested this except fro the 2 brds,he suggested 5 and 4 brd's,i'm just scared it will crash my CNS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    better. i would still do 2 wks in the shirt before deload

    honestly i use my shirt ALOT before a meet, i found to get stronger using the shirt you need to use the shirt. i usually work 2 wks in the shirt , one wk out of the shirt, i know others that use the shirt every other wk, this is probably your best bet IMO
    how many wks out from the meet do you star going for 1-3rm's out of your shirt ? and have you had any problems crashing ?

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    i should have titled this thread ,PUTTING TOGETHER A ROUTINE FOR MY NEXT EQUIPED 3 LIFT MEET,by doc.sust and cmillett ,LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    how many wks out from the meet do you star going for 1-3rm's out of your shirt ? and have you had any problems crashing ?
    12 wks-8 wks= 3 reps
    7wk-3 wks -2reps
    wks 2-1 =1rep
    deload wk
    meet wk

    i avoid crashing by taking a wk off of getting in the shirt, sometimes i do every other wk, one wk raw one equiped or i will go to wks equiped one wk out, i play it by ear and how i feel. but i defiantely increased my shirted press by wearing the shirt more often than the last 2 to 3 wks of the training cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    i should have titled this thread ,PUTTING TOGETHER A ROUTINE FOR MY NEXT EQUIPED 3 LIFT MEET,by doc.sust and cmillett ,LOL
    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    hows this for getting my shirted bench right,

    BENCH ME
    wk
    1. raw 2brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    2. raw 2brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    3. raw 4brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    4. raw 4brd 1-3rm,shirted 3-5rm
    5. deload
    6. shirted 3rm,raw 2 brd 5rm
    7. shirted 3rm,raw 2 brd 5rm
    8. shirted 1-3rm,raw 4brd 5rm
    9. shirted 1-3rm,raw 4brd 5rm
    10.deload
    11.meet

    bench de-50-65% 72hrs later

    a member from another brd suggested this except fro the 2 brds,he suggested 5 and 4 brd's,i'm just scared it will crash my CNS.
    whats your thoughts on this approach ?

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    I always thought using a % of strength in the gym was a waste of time. Are pro lifters doing that ? are worlds strongest man compeditors doing that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoder
    I always thought using a % of strength in the gym was a waste of time. Are pro lifters doing that ? are worlds strongest man compeditors doing that?
    yes and no. people may use percents as a guide,but dont actually follow them to the tee, othersstill do use them bioth approaches work differently some get better results using the periodozation

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    whats your thoughts on this approach ?
    looks real good, except dont try 5 reps in the shirt. 3 is the most. alos consider doing the program 2 wks in the shirt one wk out of the shit your body can use the break

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    looks real good, except dont try 5 reps in the shirt. 3 is the most. alos consider doing the program 2 wks in the shirt one wk out of the shit your body can use the break
    thanks Doc,you always seem too know exactly what too say. Are you sure you don't sell cars ?

    but on a serious note,i appreciate of your's and everyone elses advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoder
    I always thought using a % of strength in the gym was a waste of time. Are pro lifters doing that ? are worlds strongest man compeditors doing that?
    take a look at Andy Bolton or Ed Coans for example,but as far as % training goes for me ,I can train in the higher %'s more often if i stay in my raw %.But for training for an equiped meet ,i have too work my way up due too the extreme increase of %'s. I found that I don't peak prematurely and don't have as many injury's training that way,the heaviest i'll go before a meet for any of the 3 lifts will be an opener within 3 wks of the EQUIPED meet.
    so far as the bench goes i like the WSBB / MM approach for the equiped lift,and for training my raw,i use a % approach followed by WSBB brd work as a secondary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    thanks Doc,you always seem too know exactly what too say. Are you sure you don't sell cars ?

    but on a serious note,i appreciate of your's and everyone elses advice.
    LOL! i dont sell cars, but i should

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