bros that blast and cruise

**qwertylifts** · 05-11-2014, 10:50 AM

I'm 25 y/o I decided I wanna blast and cruise. I know the risk and hated going through pct, felt very depressed and negative. Normally in blast and cruise cycles I see people blast different compounds. I just want to use single compounds in high. Doses with test as a base of course.

in my first blast I'm going for my first tren cycle at 500mg week.for a 12 week cycle with test e.then instead of pct . Ill drop my test to a trt dosage for 6 weeks then blast again ? Will I be good blasting high doses of single compounds as opposed to multiple compounds like some people do on blast and cruise cycles . I. just want to cycle without the pct. thanks.

**Back In Black** · 05-11-2014, 11:03 AM

Your profile says you are 30?

What are your

Height
Weight
Bodyfat %
Cycle history

What risks do you think there are of choosing this?

**qwertylifts** · 05-11-2014, 04:20 PM

5'9 210

I don't know my body fat I guess u can say average haha.I train 7 days a week.

Cycle includes test e 's
And test deca cycles. I just don't want to pct anymore . So can somebody help me in the first post question .

**qwertylifts** · 05-12-2014, 08:07 AM

Bump

**hawk14dl** · 05-12-2014, 10:27 AM

I'm no expert, but from what I can tell if you stay on for extended periods of time, you'll be completely shut down. Which means your"cruise" will be trt. For life.

That would be one of the risks associated with blasting and cruising. There are many more. Blast and cruise is typically used by an advanced bodybuilder, where it's basically his life. Being that you don't even know your body fat %, I'm guessing that's not you.

Pct is part of it. If you can't handle the pct you shouldn't be doing steroids .

To answer your question, a blast can be anything you want. It's just like doing a cycle. Only difference is when you're done you go on a low dose of test.
Also, if your blast consists of something other then a test base, you will need to run the low dose of test throughout.

I would honestly reconsider man

**Chicagotarsier** · 05-12-2014, 10:41 AM

Go deposit your sperm if this is your choice.

**qwertylifts** · 05-12-2014, 10:56 AM

Thank u for your advice.

**DontTaseMeBro** · 05-13-2014, 09:04 AM

starting trt for life at 25? That's a pretty serious decision. I'm 44 with relatively low testosterone and I'm trying to put it off a few more years.

**Times Roman** · 05-13-2014, 10:35 AM

blokes that "blast and cruise" are typically already on TRT. And if they are not, they soon will be.

**PistolPete33** · 05-13-2014, 10:58 AM

I'm on TRT and blast and cruise but life would be much much much easier if I wasn't on TRT for the rest of my life. I'm already sick of pinning all the frigen time and to think I get to do it for another 30 or so years really sucks.

**Times Roman** · 05-13-2014, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

I'm on TRT and blast and cruise but life would be much much much easier if I wasn't on TRT for the rest of my life. I'm already sick of pinning all the frigen time and to think I get to do it for another 30 or so years really sucks.

there are some esthers of Test out there with some really long half lives, resulting in the need to pin only bi-monthly.

Talk to Marcus, he has some experience with Nebido I believe.....

**kelkel** · 05-13-2014, 12:25 PM

Nebido is now available in the US under the name Aveed. Problem is the FDA cut the dose back by one-quarter as compared to across the pond.

**Times Roman** · 05-13-2014, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Nebido is now available in the US under the name Aveed. Problem is the FDA cut the dose back by one-quarter as compared to across the pond.

interesting. so does this mean you can only get your blood serums up to 25% of the target levels, or does that mean you only get a fixed amount of Nebido in a given amount of time?

**kelkel** · 05-13-2014, 01:29 PM

From memory I believe the "Pond" dosage is 1000mgs. In the states they only allow 750. I do not yet know if they allow the physicians to add to this or not. I believe (from memory again) they are looking for an app. 500 TT level as a goal number. As if we're all the same......

**Times Roman** · 05-13-2014, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

From memory I believe the "Pond" dosage is 1000mgs. In the states they only allow 750. I do not yet know if they allow the physicians to add to this or not. I believe (from memory again) they are looking for an app. 500 TT level as a goal number. As if we're all the same......

sorry. I mis read. I thought you said only allowed a quarter dose, when in fact you said cut back by a quarter dose. That makes a little more sense. Too bad the FDA, once again, has their you know what up their other you know what. It should be specific to the needs of the individual, as opposed to the position they currently taken.

**PistolPete33** · 05-15-2014, 06:45 AM

I've been doing some research on Nebido and it def. seems promising. I don't mind the pinning too much now but I'm sure after many more years of it I will either be numb to it or just hate doing it altogether. If only having to pin bimonthly it's certainly better than biweekly. That said, ONLY if I can feel the way I currently do and not regress.

**kyawookie** · 08-21-2014, 07:57 PM

I understand everyone says it's bad and I am not looking to start a debate or question the knowledge of anyone but can you guys link the research papers showing that if you b and c for 5 years or so you won't be able to recover. I only ask because I'm trying to find research from universities or doctors that back this up and I'm having trouble finding it. Like I said I am not questioning your knowledge I just want to read the research and educate myself further in this subject. Most of the stuff I find just says don't do it it's bad but I would like to find something with control groups and hard evidence that there will be long term issues.

**kelkel** · 08-21-2014, 09:15 PM

No one would sponsor such a study. Legal ramifications, etc...

**kyawookie** · 08-21-2014, 09:42 PM

They do studies on people smoking pot. I don't see how there couldn't be one for steroid use . And if there are no studies then how do we know you can't b and c and not be able to recover? What about hcg and a proper pct after you finish your b and c? Again please don't think I'm trying to poke holes in anyone's logic. I just believe in research and scientific data. Not swole guy at the gym told me so... I've messed up a lot doing that lmao.

**oldnsedentary** · 08-22-2014, 09:16 AM

Long-Term Psychiatric and Medical Consequences of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid Abuse

**kelkel** · 08-22-2014, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by kyawookie

They do studies on people smoking pot. I don't see how there couldn't be one for steroid use. And if there are no studies then how do we know you can't b and c and not be able to recover? What about hcg and a proper pct after you finish your b and c? Again please don't think I'm trying to poke holes in anyone's logic. I just believe in research and scientific data. Not swole guy at the gym told me so... I've messed up a lot doing that lmao.

They do studies on all types of things that are somewhat publicly acceptable. Steroids in a blast and cruise setting are not, unfortunately. Maybe in time....

**yettibecsuse** · 08-22-2014, 07:39 PM

I am on nebido/ in aus it's reandron and its every 8 weeks and I have tested my levels every 2/3 weeks and that have been the most stable they have every been 1000mg shot forget in eveb on trt

**PistolPete33** · 08-23-2014, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Nebido is now available in the US under the name Aveed. Problem is the FDA cut the dose back by one-quarter as compared to across the pond.

EXACTLY.... I asked my Dr. about Nebido and he said it's a great option but the doses they are allowing are too low. He said it would be easier pinning once or twice per month but not at the risk of not getting levels where they are now.