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    Restarting Linear Progression

    I did Stronglifts 5x5 and Texas Method for a long time natural with great results but have exhausted my gains with those templates. For a first cycle (basic beginner TestE) does it make sense to start a linear progression again for someone look to gain mass and strength on the main lifts? Or is it too much too fast?

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    Take a look at 5 3 1. It's still pretty straightforward but more advanced and IMHO more effective than the other programs you mentioned.

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    Ok, I will. Still trying to understand how to best take advantage of training on cycle as far as volume, intensity, and accessory lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanpo1e View Post
    Ok, I will. Still trying to understand how to best take advantage of training on cycle as far as volume, intensity, and accessory lifts.
    Just do whatever you would normally do, but let the progression roll better as the gear allows.
    There’s no sense in training in a totally different modality, just because you’re on cycle, as you develop adaptations that are A: pointless, and B: less likely to stick around over time.
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    Thanks, dont't reinvent the wheel and K.I.S.S.
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    Thanks, dont't reinvent the wheel and K.I.S.S.
    Precisely.
    I’ve been running the same program (Juggernaut Training Method) for almost four years now; while primary hypo, when starting TRT, when running cycles, all of it.

    Starting amraps in 2016:
    Bench: 150x12
    Squat: 215x14
    Strict Press: 100x12
    Deadlift: 300x12

    Most recent a few weeks ago:
    Bench: 235x12
    Squat: 370x10
    Strict Press: 165x9
    Deadlift: 415x10

    So yeah, not these absurd “leaps and bounds” (read completely unsustainable) jumps that some people claim their program can induce, but it’s been constant and consistent improvement, so there’s no reason to screw with what works for me.
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    Those are some impressive improvements. I'm not familiar with Juggernaut training Method; how does it work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanpo1e View Post
    Those are some impressive improvements. I'm not familiar with Juggernaut training Method; how does it work?
    It’s kinda similar to 5/3/1, but has a built in progression mechanic, based on how many reps over the block count you get on certain amrap sets.
    An excerpt from the ebook, showing the program and partial explanation of amraps:

    The progression happens on the “Realization” week amraps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanpo1e View Post
    I did Stronglifts 5x5 and Texas Method for a long time natural with great results but have exhausted my gains with those templates. For a first cycle (basic beginner TestE) does it make sense to start a linear progression again for someone look to gain mass and strength on the main lifts? Or is it too much too fast?
    Mass AND strength. That is not as bad as bulk and cut at same time but still a huge valley separates mass and strength.

    Mass is built strictly through hypertrophy and diet + sleep. You can achieve hypertrophy via many paths. Lifting super heavy is not the path to the highest level hypertrophy.

    Strength is built via CNS and form. You acquire strength by damaging and healing your CNS. You are years into lifting so form should not be an issue. Diet and Sleep impact CNS the most.

    Focus on diet and sleep. These are the two items YOU control. The rest will handle itself.

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    Thanks for the explanation. Coming from reading a lot about strength training, building strength and mass seemed fairly synonymous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanpo1e View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. Coming from reading a lot about strength training, building strength and mass seemed fairly synonymous.
    Ehhh, to a point, they are. Increased cross section of muscle leads to increased strength potential. However, shit gets weird in the extremes though, where so much specificity is required to continue increasing strength (think the peaking programs that Stefi Cohen and Dan Green run while peaking for meets) that you cannot physically handle volume that would lead to further hypertrophy. You would literally start breaking shit left and right.
    Percentages and shit only take you so far. Lifting 85-95% for sets of 2-3 is not the same when your 1RMs are 405/315/495 as when they are 865/525/950. You just can’t recover from hypertrophy inducing volumes at that level.

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