Johnnie Jackson, guest posing 3/10... bad...

[SVTMuscle*]

What great representation for the sport especially for a PROFESSIONAL

[Timm1704]

what is the point of doing abs and thigh at that bodyfat percentage?

i am shocked, johnny is one of my favourite bodybuilders, i guess this is a testament to how hard he must work during contest prep

[SVTMuscle*]

I think it's ridiculous how much pro's let themselves go in the offseason. they are the highest representation of the sport there is, and when someone who dosnt follow the sport sees them and finds out they are a pro, they just look at like...your just fat.....

[Random]

Yea i saw those pics too, man thats just getting out of hand


CD

[SVTMuscle*]

Yea i saw those pics too, man thats just getting out of hand


CD

Your in better shape than pro's!

[Anavar Man]

The quest for additional size. He looks like shizt.

[BigBlack]

Ha Ha Ha Ha!

[JAYROD]

that is awefull!

[Fjock]

that is awefull!

haha this is for everyone who doesnt believe in dirty bulking. These guys are consuming insane amounts of calories to pack on mass in the off season. I for one am a big fan of this method. Ive been able to make it work for me at the amatuer level

[Hellmaskbanned]

he's that soft looking but yet still has abs......

[SVTMuscle*]

well hes got about as much abs as me there, but i dont call them abs haha

[Fjock]

You gotta take into account all the quailty mass hes building under that fat as well though. that will probally look sick once hes shredded.

[SMCengineer]

You gotta take into account all the quailty mass hes building under that fat as well though. that will probally look sick once hes shredded.

My thoughts exactly. How are you gonna grow that kind of muscle without eating boatloads of food?

[briancb1]

he's that soft looking but yet still has abs......

if he was ass white and had different lighting you wouldn't see crap.

[*Narkissos*]

*mooo*

[SVTMuscle*]

My thoughts exactly. How are you gonna grow that kind of muscle without eating boatloads of food?

Read my previous post.

[*Narkissos*]

I think it's ridiculous how much pro's let themselves go in the offseason. they are the highest representation of the sport there is, and when someone who dosnt follow the sport sees them and finds out they are a pro, they just look at like...your just fat.....

..right

You see: him 'letting go'.
He sees: him doing what he needs to do to grow.

You see: him showing up at a guest posing in shameful condition
He sees: Himself keeping up his end of the required quest-posing showings..which are part and package of his sponsorship and other contracted engagements.

Top level pros don't have an 'off-season'.

To make the drastic improvements that their shallow fan-base requires from contest to contest they have to employ extremes.

You fans are impossible.

I'd bet, like is the case with so many others ripped-to-shredz-year-round competitors, that if he came to each contest looking the same he'd get flamed for coming looking the same... and being complacent.

[*Narkissos*]

*mooo*

On a side note.. i'm glad they didn't show any pics of him from behind.

I would've:

*mooo*

[Fjock]

..right

You see: him 'letting go'.
He sees: him doing what he needs to do to grow.

You see: him showing up at a guest posing in shameful condition
He sees: Himself keeping up his end of the required quest-posing showings..which are part and package of his sponsorship and other contracted engagements.

Top level pros don't have an 'off-season'.

To make the drastic improvements that their shallow fan-base requires from contest to contest they have to employ extremes.

You fans are impossible.

I'd bet, like is the case with so many others ripped-to-shredz-year-round competitors, that if he came to each contest looking the same he'd get flamed for coming looking the same... and being complacent.

Couldnt have said it any better. And you just know that the same people that think he looks terrible in those shots will be in awe next time they see him step on stage in top shape. What do you think these pros care about more? lookin shredded for a guest pose, or having a chance to win one of the bigger shows?

[SVTMuscle*]

..right

You see: him 'letting go'.
He sees: him doing what he needs to do to grow.

You see: him showing up at a guest posing in shameful condition
He sees: Himself keeping up his end of the required quest-posing showings..which are part and package of his sponsorship and other contracted engagements.

Top level pros don't have an 'off-season'.

To make the drastic improvements that their shallow fan-base requires from contest to contest they have to employ extremes.

You fans are impossible.

I'd bet, like is the case with so many others ripped-to-shredz-year-round competitors, that if he came to each contest looking the same he'd get flamed for coming looking the same... and being complacent.

And when the pro's bitch they don't make any money at competitions, that's because the popularity isn't there. And that's why. Bodybuilding needs as much positive images as possible, and that certainly is a negative.

[*Narkissos*]

And when the pro's bitch they don't make any money at competitions, that's because the popularity isn't there.

It's a catch-22...

It is impossible to please the bodybuidling public.

Stay lean year-round.. make a good rep as a guy that always shows up in shape. Get a few guest-appearances.

Arrive at a contest looking the same as at a guest appearance (i.e. no bigger)... and be relagated to the bottom of the barrel..

Of course, reduced placing will mean reduced requests for guest-posings.

So regardless of your reputation.. you don't get shit.

Bulk up.. get flamed.

And that's why.

If it were only that simple.

Maybe one day you'll stop being a casual observer, and get your ass up on stage.

Maybe some day you'll commit to competing a couple times per year... trying to make improvements from comp to comp.

And you'll realise just how hard it is.. and how you've got to evaluate and assign your priorities.

Bodybuilding needs as much positive images as possible, and that certainly is a negative.

yes bodybuilding needs positive images.

Bodybuilding also needs more sponsorship.. more credibility... more opportunities to make cash... etc.

There's lots that sports needs.

Sure, showing up to guest-posing is disrespectful imo.. but most times, guys don't have a choice.

It's either:

¤don't show up ..and get sued for breaking contractual agreements

¤show up in (or near) contest shape... and lose out on the 'off-season's potential improvements

¤Show up offseason... take flack.. and show up on contest ripped and huge-er.. and win some cash and admiration

Sorry SVT.. but til you've walked the walk, you're just another bitter 'fan'.

[SVTMuscle*]

I agree with you Nark that the pro's need to do what they need to do to remain the best. But let's be realistic, JJ is not going to be top 5 in the Olympia. That's just letting himself go IMO

[timtim]

i hate pro bb'ing but completely respect these guys for what they do. in 16 weeks he will be dry as a bone, shredded to the gills. anyone who thinks these guys stay lean year round (with the exception of palumbo) is crazy. they have to continue to improve and eating like a bird wont do shit.

and the comment about people who arent into bb'ing seeing him and lau***ng saying he is fat are the same people who will say he looks gross when competition ready so who cares what a lay person may think. they have no clue whether the guy is ready to compete or not. therefor their opinion means zero.

[perfectbeast2001]

I was pretty suprised at the pics but then who cares when he looks so great when he gets in shape!!

[*Narkissos*]

i hate pro bb'ing but completely respect these guys for what they do. in 16 weeks he will be dry as a bone, shredded to the gills. anyone who thinks these guys stay lean year round (with the exception of palumbo) is crazy. they have to continue to improve and eating like a bird wont do shit.

and the comment about people who arent into bb'ing seeing him and lau***ng saying he is fat are the same people who will say he looks gross when competition ready so who cares what a lay person may think. they have no clue whether the guy is ready to compete or not. therefor their opinion means zero.

[doittoit]

my opinion.....he is either "off"(not likely) which would cause fat gain along with just relaxing and eating what he wants...OR.....he is just retaining loads of water from androgens/hgh+high calorie diet that is NESSECCARY for a dude at his caliber to gain size, this comes with some fat......either way he is a pro we are not and I'm sure he knows just a little something about gianing muscle, just maybe lol

[guest589745]

I saw branch warren look almost the same before.

He must go through a lot so I have to give him props for sacrificing so much to do what he does.

[guest589745]

he shoulda just used some DNP huh SVT? Lmao, j/k j/k

[SVTMuscle*]

as long its not fake he has no worries haha

[guest589745]

no shit huh lol.

[Hellmaskbanned]

He needs to get on Jenny Craig.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Thats nasty, he's in laughable condition as well as disgusting appearence.

[Hellmaskbanned]

[chest6]

lol. Thats funny stuff.

Some people I know use these guys pics as an excuse to say they are bulking.

I.e. I call someone fat. They say "Im just bulkin' bro" LOL.. 6'0" 200lbs 22% bodyfat..bulking....right

[Hellmaskbanned]

lol. Thats funny stuff.

Some people I know use these guys pics as an excuse to say they are bulking.

I.e. I call someone fat. They say "Im just bulkin' bro" LOL.. 6'0" 200lbs 22% bodyfat..bulking....right

LOL thats what I do.

I'll be eating a pizza and someone will say, " I thought you were cuttin", then I'll say.....I'm bulkin.

When I cut I have many bulkin days throughout.

[thetank]

the guy is a competitive powerlifter too..its not like you'd slap him in the gut and it would jiggle...he still has full visible abs..they are just huge so it makes his torso look thick..bulking is part of the lifestyle...i dont think thats overdoing it at all, especially for someone competing in strength..and the funny thing is..thats probably more healthy than being in contest shape.

[Dude-Man]

i hate pro bb'ing but completely respect these guys for what they do.

Mind if i ask why you hate pro bb'ing? It seems contrary to the nature of this board.

[timtim]

Mind if i ask why you hate pro bb'ing? It seems contrary to the nature of this board.

a bunch of reasons. i was really into it back in the early 90's and such. was at ronnie's 1st mr. o win.

its a joke of a "sport". its all about using a ton of drugs, becoming laughably huge, synthol, igf, etc. these pros come in, burn out over night, and disappear back into working at gyms as trainers, drug dealers, and whatever. there is no gold lining to this lifestyle in my opinion. i completely respect the work ethic and discipline and years of sacrifice. that is the respect aspect. everything else is a complete mockery of real life. these guys use plasma enhancers and site inflammatory shit right before they get on stage so they have huge veins everywhere that arent there at other times and are super inflammed all over from hitting small muscle groups to make them pop. remember flex wheeler at the arnold that one year, his back, here you go as an example.

its just a joke to me. and when the career ends, and they all end, whats left? an individual who is required to use insulin , t3, and test forever because their natural production of all of them has been destroyed. its just a joke. and there is very little difference between many of them. a group of judges tells us who's best. makes no sense to me.

i completely agree with aas use and believe there are ways to use them. i choose very little and try and perfect my ideal goal. whatever anyone else does means shit to me. i dont care who is bigger than me. i respect their goals. we all pay for what we get evenetually. what others are willing to decide to sacrifice is their choice. but in my opinion, pros have little to no care about their health or future because of the demands put on them by the governing body of bb'ing. that to me is a joke. my biggest concern in life is the health and well being of my family and myself. pro bb'ing is the complete opposite of this. that to me is a joke. what else in the world is more precious than life?

sorry for the rant but this is the tip of the iceberg of why i hate pro bb'ing.

[Timm1704]

a bunch of reasons. i was really into it back in the early 90's and such. was at ronnie's 1st mr. o win.

its a joke of a "sport". its all about using a ton of drugs, becoming laughably huge, synthol, igf, etc. these pros come in, burn out over night, and disappear back into working at gyms as trainers, drug dealers, and whatever. there is no gold lining to this lifestyle in my opinion. i completely respect the work ethic and discipline and years of sacrifice. that is the respect aspect. everything else is a complete mockery of real life. these guys use plasma enhancers and site inflammatory shit right before they get on stage so they have huge veins everywhere that arent there at other times and are super inflammed all over from hitting small muscle groups to make them pop. remember flex wheeler at the arnold that one year, his back, here you go as an example.

its just a joke to me. and when the career ends, and they all end, whats left? an individual who is required to use insulin , t3, and test forever because their natural production of all of them has been destroyed. its just a joke. and there is very little difference between many of them. a group of judges tells us who's best. makes no sense to me.

i completely agree with aas use and believe there are ways to use them. i choose very little and try and perfect my ideal goal. whatever anyone else does means shit to me. i dont care who is bigger than me. i respect their goals. we all pay for what we get evenetually. what others are willing to decide to sacrifice is their choice. but in my opinion, pros have little to no care about their health or future because of the demands put on them by the governing body of bb'ing. that to me is a joke. my biggest concern in life is the health and well being of my family and myself. pro bb'ing is the complete opposite of this. that to me is a joke. what else in the world is more precious than life?

sorry for the rant but this is the tip of the iceberg of why i hate pro bb'ing.

great point dude, i imagine this will spark afew entertaining and informative replies

[heavylifter99]

jj, looks pretty nasty in the pics, however I'm sure he's looking at the big picture at what he feels he needs to do to move up a couple of spots. Just hope he doesn't let this get to out of hand or he could move down a couple of spots as well.