clen effectiveness

**Ryanfaro** · 04-24-2012, 01:18 PM

I think strict diet alone can take me there, scientifically it can because nothing is more important than diet. However, I havent been below 12% since I was 15, but I also have never been this strict with diet. So if you, or somebody tell me to throw in cardio, I will without question.
Water intake has been a little higher than usual.
Today is day 3, and weight is coming back down as I just weighed myself.
I am lifting very heavy (relative to me of course), lifting one year now and today I did shoulders. No spotter, easily handled 6 reps of 75 pound dumbbells on shoulder press, so I am a bit stronger in weeks. before I started my cut I handled 80's. But yes I am lifting heavy, just deadlifted 455 as a new max a few days ago. I am very serious with my compounds as a relatively new lifter.

**Ryanfaro** · 04-24-2012, 01:36 PM

Heart rate from jack3d on my morning workout, around 125. 4 hours later it was at 102. I just took my daily clen an hour ago, heart rate is at 110 and will likely stay. Without stimulants I wakeup in the high 70s.

**Kk570h** · 04-24-2012, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ryanfaro

Heart rate from jack3d on my morning workout, around 125. 4 hours later it was at 102. I just took my daily clen an hour ago, heart rate is at 110 and will likely stay. Without stimulants I wakeup in the high 70s.

At a slow walk my hr is 130ish..

**ironbeck** · 04-24-2012, 01:53 PM

oxyelite pro

**Kk570h** · 04-25-2012, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

oxyelite pro

Waste of $

**Ryanfaro** · 04-26-2012, 08:33 AM

I agree, oxyelite does not directly burn fat it's an appetite suppressant like most legal alternatives.

Update on clen : weight is flying off now. 5 days in, took a 120mcg dose today. In 5 days I'm down about 3 pounds

**bigsale** · 04-26-2012, 05:11 PM

Quick question guys would you recomend buying the oral syringes from ar-r and do you need the needles or no, never bought the oral syringes before thanks

**JohnnyVegas** · 04-26-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by bigsale

Quick question guys would you recomend buying the oral syringes from ar-r and do you need the needles or no, never bought the oral syringes before thanks

Oral for Clen . No needles. You just measure with the syringe and swallow it.

The lines wear off pretty quickly. Get two.