Anyone Use SARM?

[d-red]

phate something is either legal or illegal. if i got caught with it i either get in trouble or i dont. if it isnt illegal then you could ask for a source. people ask for where to buy supplements and other products all the time and its allowed as long as its not illegal.

it is borderline..legal/illegal

[Lightsout2184]

it is borderline..legal/illegal

makes no sense if i get pulled over transporting it im either arrested or im not. a judge either finds me guilty or not guilty.

[d-red]

makes no sense if i get pulled over transporting it im either arrested or im not. a judge either finds me guilty or not guilty.

lol..ok..the judge would find you not guilty. its lega.

[Juice Authority]

makes no sense if i get pulled over transporting it im either arrested or im not. a judge either finds me guilty or not guilty.

It makes perfect sense. The drug in Phase II clinical trials, which means it will be SEVERAL more years before it gets the FDA rubber stamp of approval. As such, it is NOT a controlled substance. It is not even recognized as a Therapeutic by the FDA. It hasn't even made the Olympic banned list yet. You can't schedule something that is not recognized as a drug.

http://www.gtxinc.com/Pipeline/Ostar...866.aspx?Sid=4

In October 2008, GTx announced topline results of the Phase II trial evaluating Ostarine in patients with cancer cachexia. The clinical trial enrolled 159 cancer patients (average age of 66 years) with non-small cell lung cancer, colorectal cancer, non-Hodgkin lymphoma, chronic lymphocytic leukemia or breast cancer at 35 sites in the U.S. and Argentina. Participants were randomized to receive placebo, 1 mg or 3 mg oral capsule of Ostarine once daily for 16 weeks. Average reported weight loss prior to entry among all subjects was 8.8%. Subjects were allowed to have standard chemotherapy during the trial.


The study met its primary endpoint of absolute change in total lean body mass (muscle) compared to placebo and the secondary endpoint of muscle function (performance). The incidence of serious adverse events, deaths and tumor progression were similar among placebo and the treatment arms. The most common side effects reported among all subjects in the trial were fatigue, anemia, nausea and diarrhea.

[chucklesmcgee]

It makes perfect sense. The drug in Phase II clinical trials, which means it will be SEVERAL more years before it gets the FDA rubber stamp of approval. As such, it is NOT a controlled substance. It is not even recognized as a Therapeutic by the FDA. It hasn't even made the Olympic banned list yet. You can't schedule something that is not recognized as a drug.

http://www.gtxinc.com/Pipeline/Ostar...866.aspx?Sid=4

In October 2008, GTx announced topline results of the Phase II trial evaluating Ostarine in patients with cancer cachexia. The clinical trial enrolled 159 cancer patients (average age of 66 years) with non-small cell lung cancer, colorectal cancer, non-Hodgkin lymphoma, chronic lymphocytic leukemia or breast cancer at 35 sites in the U.S. and Argentina. Participants were randomized to receive placebo, 1 mg or 3 mg oral capsule of Ostarine once daily for 16 weeks. Average reported weight loss prior to entry among all subjects was 8.8%. Subjects were allowed to have standard chemotherapy during the trial.


The study met its primary endpoint of absolute change in total lean body mass (muscle) compared to placebo and the secondary endpoint of muscle function (performance). The incidence of serious adverse events, deaths and tumor progression were similar among placebo and the treatment arms. The most common side effects reported among all subjects in the trial were fatigue, anemia, nausea and diarrhea.

You're right on everything except the Olympic part. SARMs are on WADA's prohibited list.

[Juice Authority]

You're right on everything except the Olympic part. SARMs are on WADA's prohibited list.

I wasn't aware of that. It must have been a recent development.

[chucklesmcgee]

I wasn't aware of that. It must have been a recent development.

I think it was just announced for 2009.

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...20_Sept_08.pdf

"Section S1:
2. Other Anabolic Agents, including but not limited to:
Clenbuterol , selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs ), tibolone, zeranol, zilpaterol."

[gymnutt]

It's perfectly legal....for your rats if you have a licensed research facility.

[John88Test]

My research facility just got two bottles. My rat starts preliminary trials on Monday. Will keep you updated.

[Juice Authority]

It's perfectly legal....for your rats if you have a licensed research facility.

LOL. True.

[powerliftmike]

if it isnt illegal then you could ask for a source.

No, because the sources out there right now are not just selling s4, if you know what im getting at...

[powerliftmike]

SARMs are on WADA's prohibited list.

Too bad for WADA it cant be tested for yet

[BJJ]

Probably after positive phase III trials conclude and they submit the final paperwork. So maybe sometime in 2010-2011 you'll be able to get 3 mgs a day for grandma.

To be more specific, it should be by the end of 2011.
Surely not beyond that year without behoof.

[xnotoriousx]

i'd like to try it, sounds great.

[CheddaNips]

s4 is great. It is very limited on who has it but if you have any rep on other sites there are bros selling it. Vision blurry-ness goes away real quick.