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My goal is not to build bulky muscle mass or better physique but to improve stamina endurance and raw strength.
My plan is to make 3000mg last approx 40 days and to see how my body responds to low and high doses. If I start to get negative sides such as blurred vision etc, I will lower the dose.
I don't plan on logging this religiously but I will keep updates on how it's effecting my body.
5 days at 25mg per day
10 days at 50mg per day
25 days at 90mg per day
Input welcome
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you wont get any effects at all from that dose IMO, i was running twice your high dose and didn't get very noticeable effectsOriginally Posted by Ironside
My goal is not to build bulky muscle mass or better physique but to improve stamina endurance and raw strength.
My plan is to make 3000mg last approx 40 days and to see how my body responds to low and high doses. If I start to get negative sides such as blurred vision etc, I will lower the dose.
I don't plan on logging this religiously but I will keep updates on how it's effecting my body.
5 days at 25mg per day
10 days at 50mg per day
25 days at 90mg per day
Input welcome
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i wanna see pics of the sarms, its impossible to get hands on it or its fakes...
Got Diet? ~VET~ AR Hall of Famer~
it's in oil so what would you look for?
Associate Member
packaging, viles....... just love to see it.
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i'll send you a pic sometime this week, right now i'm renovating my apartment so i'm really busy
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It's very decent. And yes, you will get results at these levels. Perhaps not at the scale AAS users may expect, but still significant results. Clinically, human trials are using AT MOST 3mg per day with elderly/cancer patients, no training and no special diet and still seeing solid muscle gain/fat loss.
5 days at 25mg per day
10 days at 50mg per day
25 days at 90mg per day
Input welcome
How are you measuring out the S4 if it's in oil? Are you going to dilute a portion so you can measure out 25mg more easily with an eyedropper?
Senior Member
Got mine in today and gave it a taste test.At first I didn't see what the big deal was with the taste than the after taste hit. Uhg.
Still I think clomid is worse.
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Ok so I've only been on this stuff a few days and already my appetite is increasing.
Maybe it's just that I'm getting use to the Vicodin, (o yea I'm stacking with Vicodin because I had my wisdom teeth removed last week) or maybe it's the S4 kicking in. I just can't stop eating, and drinking as well, been very thirsty but this could very well be that it was 106 today I'm on Vicodin and I work outside.
Will keep updates.
I should be able to kick the Vic's any day now so my stack will be looking like this:
S4 at doses above
Cordygen Ultra VO2 Max
Clout
Body Octane
Animal Flex
As you can see it's all about endurance
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Just a heads up, I have ceased everything but the flex and S4. The Cordygen, clout, BO combo has been giving me some serious stomach issues and I believe suppressive appetite
Over all my dosage at just 25mg didn't show much benefit other than a slight increase in endurance.
I'm going to raise the dose up to 75mg for the next 5 days, skipping the 50 due to time restraints.
Today is my first day at 75 spitting 25mg at 6am 25mg at 12pm 25mg at 6pm. Makes it more feasible for me to split my dosage than way rather than every 4 hrs.
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So 75mg is a good dose so far. I noticed the effects almost immediately. My mood improved, my sex drive went up and my appetite came back full throttle.
I have noticed mild visual issues, mostly when coming inside on a really bright day my eyes are hard to adjust. No big deal, I wear sun glasses almost 24/7 since I live in a desert so when I come inside I just take them off and it sort of evens out.
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GOOD JOB BOYS!! i want some
"T-MOS WILL LIVE THROUGH US FOREVER"
following, keep us updated bro...
Senior Member
Well the visual side effects are full throttle. Though it's not as bad as I expected.
It does take a little longer for my night vision to kick in but once it does it's normal, minus the yellowing.
Everything is yellow, my walls, my teeth, my rice, headlights, the moon, etc. Everything has a yellow tiny, I also noticed blue today. Early this morning I noticed than some shadows appeared to have a blue tint, I haven't seen this side mentioned before so maybe I'm just crazy but I'll keep looking into it.
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Despite the visual side effects and possible stomach sides, I'm bumping dosage to 100 starting today. I 'NEED' to increase my endurance, hopefully the effects won't be temporary.
Stomach issue is loose stool, this could be a side effect of having my wisdom teeth removed recently, not sure.
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keep us updated, good thread.
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agreed. I ran at 100mg/dy and didnt really notice shit, except the vision. no idea what would happen at 500mg/dy or something high. uncharted territory there.
Senior Member
Well, all is said and done.
My final conclusion is much like Phate and the PL Mike, this stuff is over rated. I ended up taking 150mg a day and although I did notice decreased body fat I did not notice any real strength gains. Endurance, slightly but not as much as expected.
The sides became unbearable for me, it's been about a week since I stopped and I'm still running into poles/walls/doors in the middle of the night.
My suggestion is to hold off on S4 until it advances a little more.
500mg a day would probably make me become day blind as well, I'll leave that to someone else.
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Let it to the rats and try when there are more studies.
Banned
so let me get this right 100 mg is 1 cc of sarms
Senior Member
Should be, I'd split it up into 3 or 4 doses
You'll start noticing the side effects in about 10 days
Banned
any one no the answer to this
Banned
well any way im at 1.5cc a day and i like it im seeing gains but mostly strainght not to much mass
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