My SARMs S4 Log

**tballz** · 10-22-2009, 03:24 PM

I think you should never show the 'before' photo ever again.

That 'after' pic is looking good. Size increase and definition are obvious.

Excellent work.

**bass** · 10-22-2009, 04:05 PM

LOL...once i get where I want I’ll burn all my old photos! nah, I’ll keep them for reminder.

**ghost5445** · 10-22-2009, 08:18 PM

Excellent log, Really informative. Good results too. Been itching to try the sarms , especially since I cant get in trouble with them and random drug testing.

**lotsoftime** · 10-23-2009, 07:19 AM

Good on ya

**bass** · 10-23-2009, 07:35 PM

Today sucked for some reason, i had no strength or the will to do anything. Today was shoulders and legs, did the shoulders okay but legs sucked. I’ve been feeling a little tired lately, not sure what it is, maybe working too hard. I’ll be taking a day off tomorrow from lifting, only cardio for 1 hour in the morning. BTW, today i weighed 200.08 pounds. i hope i am not loosing muscle...

**elpropiotorvic** · 10-23-2009, 07:39 PM

holy sh!t u have leaned out ...good work there.....ur armes looked like they were just fat ...now they look full

**bass** · 10-23-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by elpropiotorvic

holy sh!t u have leaned out ...good work there.....ur armes looked like they were just fat ...now they look full

thanks buddy, lots of hard work and sacrifice pays off, still got ways to go, my goal may not be realistic for my age, but I’ll keep trying...

**CHAP** · 10-23-2009, 10:07 PM

Nice log BASS ! Sorry I have not been around much bro. Busy as hell. Keep up the hard work.

**bass** · 10-23-2009, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by CHAP

Nice log BASS ! Sorry I have not been around much bro. Busy as hell. Keep up the hard work.

good to see you Chap, and thanks...

**bass** · 10-24-2009, 09:53 PM

Okay folks, this morning i weighed 199 lbs and absolutely feel great, i can't wait to do chest tomorrow, i am almost out of my third bottle, but having second thoughts about ending the cycle, i am thinking to go through my forth bottle. i didn't feel any different by increasing t he dose to 150mgs per day, in fact i felt better when i was at 100mgs per day. Not sure yet but i think i will continue the cycle and go through my forth bottle. The main reason i wanted to end this cycle is because of my vision, i think i lost 70% of my vision at night, i am absolutely blind and can't drive at all, it’s too dangerous. i believe its best to run S4 in the summer where the day is longer, or daylight is longer, but of course that’s up to the individual. a friend of mine saw me today an complemented me about how thin I looked, also commented on how lean i looked. So these are the reasons i think i will continue and finish up my 4 bottles of S4. Not sure though, but i'll keep you posted.

Everything feel normal except the vision of course.

**tballz** · 10-26-2009, 10:03 AM

You gotta do the last bottle of sarms now. The finish line is in sight unless, of course, it's nighttime then it's not.

I would keep going.

You really can't drive at night? You can see headlights right?

**bass** · 10-26-2009, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by tballz

You gotta do the last bottle of sarms now. The finish line is in sight unless, of course, it's nighttime then it's not.

I would keep going.

You really can't drive at night? You can see headlights right?

yes i can see headlights, but nothing on the sides, so if someone decided to cuts me off o won't see it until its in front of me. just the other night i was driving and my wife said "wow, did you see that bike on the side road?" i was like what bike! also the lights hurt when its aiming at my eyes. i will continue, in fact i just started the fourth bottle, it should last me 10 days or so.

Last night was my chest day, i did okay but not as i expected, my chest is just started to get sore, but very light at this point.

**bass** · 10-26-2009, 06:23 PM

Just finished triceps workout, it went really well, better than last time but no increase in weights, just a great strong workout with lots of stamina. I think I was feeling weak the last few days due to a bug, I had a minor runny nose so that might have been the reason for my weak chest workout. Today I felt 100% strong and full of energy. So far only the only problem is the vision, everything else is normal. Tomorrow is cardio only.

**bigpapabuff** · 10-27-2009, 12:28 PM

WOW!!! thank you so much for this journal, i have been looking for this kind of SARMs S4 experience. Lots of very useful information. Looks like you had some very amazing results, looks like you lost some weight, definitely increased definition and gained some muscle. I have been reading a lot of good things about sarms, this may have pushed me over the edge to buying it. Thanks again for all you hard work, very much appreciated. And did I read that the ARR SARMs S4 is 99% pure, that's a very high number. Much better than I expected.

**bass** · 10-27-2009, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by bigpapabuff

WOW!!! thank you so much for this journal, i have been looking for this kind of SARMs S4 experience. Lots of very useful information. Looks like you had some very amazing results, looks like you lost some weight, definitely increased definition and gained some muscle. I have been reading a lot of good things about sarms, this may have pushed me over the edge to buying it. Thanks again for all you hard work, very much appreciated. And did I read that the ARR SARMs S4 is 99% pure, that's a very high number. Much better than I expected.

you are welcome bigpapabuff, and yes you read it right, its 99%. actually i am decreasing the dose back to 100mgs per day, i think its so potent its making my night vision much worse and no change in strength or stamina, i think with ARR S4 will be a waste to do more than 100mgs a day, but this is yet to be seen, so I’ll keep experimenting and report back.

**endus** · 10-28-2009, 03:21 PM

Nice thread Bass - got me to come out from long time lurker to a poster and that's saying a lot.

I have been following your progress and I have a question...

- How much of this progress do you think is due to the S4 vs if you were just doing dieting alone?

The reason why I ask is that I've been doing pretty much exact same thing - without any gear and am quite amaze that we have a nearly same progress (I'm 44). My body, the fat deposit from before/after are nearly identical. You do have 1 or 1 1/2 month head start but I would say nearly identical progress.

I'm curios as to how much of this is due to the S4 (including placebo effect) vs just dieting alone with same intensity training.

By the way, I'm doing my dieting/training so I could get to a reasonable fat level for a Test E cycle (already got all the pre/during/post cycle gears). I will be starting my fist cycle in January but I wouldn't mind delaying that if I could get to 12% or less BF, which I guess is more acceptable than 15%. Cheers.

**bass** · 10-28-2009, 04:56 PM

endus, i am flattered that my log gave you a reason to post, and i am glad you did. when i train i get myself ready mentally, so placebo effect are minimal since i push hard to motivate myself. i think the S4 has increased my strength by 15-20%, it helped with loosing fat and maintaining my hard earned muscles. if you look at the last two photos i posted you will see a huge difference in just two months! i have been lifting heavy since the beginning of this year, and dieting since May 10th.

before S4 i wasn't able to get sore anymore no matter what i did, this is why i needed something to help me get to the next level, and i believe S4 did it.

**endus** · 10-28-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by bass

endus, i am flattered that my log gave you a reason to post, and i am glad you did. when i train i get myself ready mentally, so placebo effect are minimal since i push hard to motivate myself. i think the S4 has increased my strength by 15-20%, it helped with loosing fat and maintaining my hard earned muscles. if you look at the last two photos i posted you will see a huge difference in just two months! i have been lifting heavy since the beginning of this year, and dieting since May 10th.

before S4 i wasn't able to get sore anymore no matter what i did, this is why i needed something to help me get to the next level, and i believe S4 did it.

I've just ordered 2 vial.

I hope this will help with recovery as that is my biggest concern - I would like to shorten the recovery cycle. Have you noticed any effect on your recovery?

Also, did it affect your endurance? Do you do any running or Cycling?

Thanks

**bass** · 10-28-2009, 07:37 PM

The best biceps workout ever, I figured out how to lift more weights without using my wrist. As you know I have inner tennis elbow on my right hand, and its been limiting me from lifting more weights. So I bought two ankle straps and strapped them on my wrists (bypassing my hand and joint), this way I don’t have to use the injured tendon. I was able to add 4 plates 10 lbs each and did cable curls, then I put on my wrist straps which has a hook to help ease the pressure to my wrist, and was able to do straight bar curls and dumbbells. I’ve never seen my biceps so pumped, as if they were going to explode.

Okay, I’ll let you in on something here. As you know I’ve been experimenting with my last bottle of S4, I took a break for two days and just took my first dose after workout, I’ll continue my dose at 100mgs per day until the bottle is gone. I will split the dose to two 50mgs, one after workout and one in the morning after cardio. Here is a photo I just took, it doesn’t show the actual definition, but you can clearly see the size has increased, in real life my bicep looks more defined.

PS. I am still at 199 pounds as of this morning.

**bass** · 10-29-2009, 08:04 PM

Excellent shoulder and legs workout today, increased the weights by 10% all around and felt great. I must mention that I am taking supplements for joints as well, so maybe the combination of both is beneficial. Tomorrow is rest day, cardio only. But after tomorrow is chest day, this is the day where I can accurately measure if there is any difference in strength and stamina. I’ll keep you posted.

**liftsmore** · 10-30-2009, 10:15 AM

Biceps look more full. Very nice.

**bass** · 10-30-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by liftsmore

Biceps look more full. Very nice.

that and my forearms as well...

***D7M*** · 10-30-2009, 05:40 PM

good work, Bass.

and kudos on wearing the scapular, don't see much of them these days.

**bass** · 10-31-2009, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

good work, Bass.

and kudos on wearing the scapular, don't see much of them these days.

Thanks D7M, i can’t do without it...it has saved me from many thing, and probably has from being on S4!!!

**bass** · 10-31-2009, 08:02 PM

Okay everyone!

I am done with S4, I had to cut it short, I still have half bottle left but I think I had enough. Today I started my PCT, and will continue for two weeks, then will do a blood test. I did chest workout today and again I never felt my chest so pumped and hard. I will keep reporting if things come up, if not then I’ll see you guys in 3-4 weeks with my blood test. Thanks everyone for your support and interest. Please feel free to ask whatever questions you have, I’ll be more than happy to answer them.

**Okinawa_Power** · 10-31-2009, 11:49 PM

Why half a bottle left and your not finishing it? Also what does your PCT look like? Thanks...

**bass** · 11-01-2009, 12:03 PM

i completed 6 weeks, and i don't want to overdo it. PCT is Clomid 25 mgs a day, and Nolva 20 mgs a day for two weeks on both.

**bass** · 11-01-2009, 08:08 PM

one more before and after, just want you guys to see that there is a difference in fat loss, the before is about a week before i started S4, and the after is today.

**Okinawa_Power** · 11-01-2009, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by bass

one more before and after, just want you guys to see that there is a difference in fat loss, the before is about a week before i started S4, and the after is today.

The main reason I am getting S4 is because you said it helped with Joint Pain. Do you stil believe this to be true? I plan on running it with a DS so I need my joints to be good to go.....

**bass** · 11-01-2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Okinawa_Power

The main reason I am getting S4 is because you said it helped with Joint Pain. Do you stil believe this to be true? I plan on running it with a DS so I need my joints to be good to go.....

i believe it did, i couldn't do chest flys but during the cycle i tried it and i was able to, my elbow also is getting better everyday. i have to go back and read to see how far into S4 i was before i did flys, but i think maybe two weeks into it. i also take joint supplements which i think it helps.

**endus** · 11-01-2009, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by bass

one more before and after, just want you guys to see that there is a difference in fat loss, the before is about a week before i started S4, and the after is today.

Very nice! Let us know about your PCT and blood work.

I've just started mine yesterdays and I'll keeping my dosage at 50mg per day. I want to see if 50mg is enough to get similar experience as yours. I also want to run the cycle for 10-12 weeks, so hopefully this dosage will alleviate some of the vision problems. I'll try it for 1 month and if I don't feel anything, then I'll just increase the dosage and shorten the cycle length.

I'll post my result starting in few weeks.

One question, did you noticed any libido/erection/morning wood improvements?

**bass** · 11-02-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by endus

Very nice! Let us know about your PCT and blood work.

I've just started mine yesterdays and I'll keeping my dosage at 50mg per day. I want to see if 50mg is enough to get similar experience as yours. I also want to run the cycle for 10-12 weeks, so hopefully this dosage will alleviate some of the vision problems. I'll try it for 1 month and if I don't feel anything, then I'll just increase the dosage and shorten the cycle length.

I'll post my result starting in few weeks.

One question, did you noticed any libido/erection/morning wood improvements?

good, i'll be following your log...

as for libido, i didn't noticed anything different, like i said in previous posts, i am horny as is, i don't think there is room for improvement!!! one thing for sure, it didn't suffer, even know that i am of S4 for few days.

**BIG SMURPH** · 11-02-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by bass

i believe it did, i couldn't do chest flys but during the cycle i tried it and i was able to, my elbow also is getting better everyday. i have to go back and read to see how far into S4 i was before i did flys, but i think maybe two weeks into it. i also take joint supplements which i think it helps.

Wow, super informative thread and great job. Im just getting back into working out after several years off due to several major injuries/surgeries. I had no plans for a cycle of anything but S4 is now definately a possibility after reading thru here. The help with joint pain is the biggest attraction for me, right now even if I do a moderate workout my joints feel like I went all out the next day.
Congrats on the gains.

**tballz** · 11-02-2009, 03:00 PM

endus, definitely keep us posted.

Bass, you did a great job...in your workouts and posting this log....thank you a 1000 times.

**endus** · 11-02-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by bass

good, i'll be following your log...

as for libido, i didn't noticed anything different, like i said in previous posts, i am horny as is, i don't think there is room for improvement!!! one thing for sure, it didn't suffer, even know that i am of S4 for few days.

Haha, good for you. Unfortunately for me, I definitely do need help and was even thinking about going into TRT for that purpose (hey we all got reason)

**bass** · 11-03-2009, 11:08 AM

thanks guys, just wanted to report about my vision, no improvements so far, the moon was so bright last night according to my wife, she said the whole room was lit, well i couldn't see a thing, i couldn't even see where the window was, that’s how blind i am at night. i will report as to when my vision will go back to normal, i hope...

**SemiEight** · 11-03-2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by bass

thanks guys, just wanted to report about my vision, no improvements so far, the moon was so bright last night according to my wife, she said the whole room was lit, well i couldn't see a thing, i couldn't even see where the window was, that’s how blind i am at night. i will report as to when my vision will go back to normal, i hope...

I'm pretty sure I read that it takes longer than just 3 days for some so I'm sure you will be fine.