How much do SARMs shut you down?

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12-07-2009, 01:41 PM
Slide

How much do SARMs shut you down?

I was curious how suppressive SARMs are, do they ever totally shut you down?
12-07-2009, 01:50 PM
toothache

In higher doses it's shown to suppress testosterone but I don't think it actually shuts you down like aas.
12-07-2009, 01:54 PM
Slide

thanks, that what i thought. Has anyone on here gotten some blood tests on SARMs? how much is it suppressing? is it worth trying 50mg a day? or would that suppress as much as it helped...?
12-07-2009, 02:50 PM
elpropiotorvic

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Originally Posted by Slide

thanks, that what i thought. Has anyone on here gotten some blood tests on SARMs? how much is it suppressing? is it worth trying 50mg a day? or would that suppress as much as it helped...?

Try it for the sake of the research cause nobody has at 50 mg but check the logs and u will see some bloodwork
12-07-2009, 03:26 PM
toothache

Check bass's log. He was doing 100mg and he showed no suppressed test
12-07-2009, 04:42 PM
bass

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Originally Posted by toothache

Check bass's log. He was doing 100mg and he showed no suppressed test

that’s true, however Phate ran it at up to 225mgs per day and it showed a slight suppression...
12-07-2009, 04:48 PM
chucklesmcgee

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Originally Posted by Slide

I was curious how suppressive SARMs are, do they ever totally shut you down?

Well, SARMs are a huge class of different molecules, so that would depend more on the specific type of SARM. As far as S4, we don't really know for sure. I recall that the patent said something about there being absolutely no suppression in rats below 1mg S4/kg bodyweight. I think in theory, absolutely massive doses would totally shut you down, but no one here is dosing that high. Even if people are getting slight suppression at high-ish doses, testosterone levels probably still fall within the normal range and are more or less unnoticeable.
12-07-2009, 05:25 PM
toothache

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Originally Posted by bass

that’s true, however Phate ran it at up to 225mgs per day and it showed a slight suppression...

I'm thinking 225mgs is overkill. I don't think that you are anymore anabolic on 225 as compared to 100mg. I could be totally wrong about this but what I've read that doesn't seem to be the case. However, the negative sides are more severe.
12-08-2009, 10:19 AM
tballz

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Originally Posted by toothache

I'm thinking 225mgs is overkill. I don't think that you are anymore anabolic on 225 as compared to 100mg. I could be totally wrong about this but what I've read that doesn't seem to be the case. However, the negative sides are more severe.

Does anyone know for sure that more isn't better?
12-08-2009, 11:23 AM
bass

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Originally Posted by tballz

Does anyone know for sure that more isn't better?

based on Endus and my experience its true, we went up with our dose and the only thing increased is the negative sides. we found that 50mgs per day takes too long to feel the effects, and 100mgs per day was just right, at least to me and Endus.
12-08-2009, 04:33 PM
tballz

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Originally Posted by bass

based on Endus and my experience its true, we went up with our dose and the only thing increased is the negative sides. we found that 50mgs per day takes too long to feel the effects, and 100mgs per day was just right, at least to me and Endus.

Beautiful....that's the kind of info we need to see.

Great observation, bass and endus.