DNP/Clen/s4

**dirtbike35** · 02-10-2010, 05:18 PM

You think DNP Clen and s4 would be a good cutting stack?

**Phate** · 02-10-2010, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by dirtbike35

You think DNP Clen and s4 would be a good cutting stack?

well, it has dnp , which is the best fat burner we know of, and clen which is a great sympathomimetic, so yeah probably

**Necrosaro** · 02-11-2010, 09:10 AM

DNP requires a lot of research just to let you know!

**Tyler694** · 04-11-2010, 03:51 PM

Not meaning to bump an old thread, just trying to expand my knowledge.

Wouldn't running a dnp and clen at the same time be pretty dangerous?

**KZRSOIZE** · 04-11-2010, 04:12 PM

BE VERY CAREFUL USING DNP !!!!!!!!

Whats your background, age history of aas usage and height weight . DNP is no joke

**Phate** · 04-11-2010, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tyler694

Not meaning to bump an old thread, just trying to expand my knowledge.

Wouldn't running a dnp and clen at the same time be pretty dangerous?

not if you do it right, that's only part of what i'm running now and i'm having no problems

**the big 1** · 04-12-2010, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

not if you do it right, that's only part of what i'm running now and i'm having no problems

Phate - is dnp as bad as everyone says ?

Theres only so much research you can do for dnp, ide rather hear it from the horses mouth.

What dose are you taking ? Is it as good as they say ?

Sounds like a miracle drug that actually works ?

**lifterjaydawg** · 04-12-2010, 12:51 PM

I think the sarms s4 and clen would be a good enough combo.

**Kratos** · 04-12-2010, 01:09 PM

I'd go with the eating less stack

s4...bad for eyes
DNP ...bad for eyes

I wouldn't combine the two...just because I'm so damn partial to seeing.

**OH REALLY** · 04-12-2010, 02:09 PM

i would like to try DNP

**Phate** · 04-12-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by the big 1

Phate - is dnp as bad as everyone says ?
in short, no, but it should be given alot of respect
Theres only so much research you can do for dnp, ide rather hear it from the horses mouth.

What dose are you taking ? Is it as good as they say ?
right now, around 500-750mg/day since it's getting to be summer and warming up
Sounds like a miracle drug that actually works ?

it works very well when used properly, but if you start giving in to the carb cravings you will turn into the furnace of hell lol

Originally Posted by Kratos

I'd go with the eating less stack

s4...bad for eyes
DNP...bad for eyes
not true on the dnp part, unconfirmed on the S4 if i'm not mistaken

I wouldn't combine the two...just because I'm so damn partial to seeing.

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**the big 1** · 04-12-2010, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

it works very well when used properly, but if you start giving in to the carb cravings you will turn into the furnace of hell lol

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sounds very intense, i would like to try it next time i have a weeks holiday

**Phate** · 04-12-2010, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by the big 1

sounds very intense, i would like to try it next time i have a weeks holiday

it can be, at lower dosages it's only a minor inconvenience if you run it right, but at higher dosages it can be a royal pain

i would suggest carb depleting 2-3 days prior

**the big 1** · 04-13-2010, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

it can be, at lower dosages it's only a minor inconvenience if you run it right, but at higher dosages it can be a royal pain

i would suggest carb depleting 2-3 days prior

so it can be successfully ran at low doses ; ie 200mg a day?

would 200mg a day do much then?

**Phate** · 04-13-2010, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by the big 1

so it can be successfully ran at low doses ; ie 200mg a day?

would 200mg a day do much then?

not really, remember that the results are directly proportional to dosage

**Tyler694** · 04-13-2010, 10:22 AM

..and I'm assuming dosage would at least somewhat be proportionate to weight?

Like, while a 175lb male could easily get away with 200-400mg a 225lb male would need 400-600mg?

**Phate** · 04-13-2010, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Tyler694

..and I'm assuming dosage would at least somewhat be proportionate to weight?

Like, while a 175lb male could easily get away with 200-400mg a 225lb male would need 400-600mg?

possibly, i've never read a study over this, and since it manipulates mitochondria at a subcellular level it might not matter, but i know that i'm under 200lbs right now and took close to 10mg/lb(don't do this)

**Tyler694** · 04-13-2010, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

possibly, i've never read a study over this, and since it manipulates mitochondria at a subcellular level it might not matter, but i know that i'm under 200lbs right now and took close to 10mg/lb(don't do this)

10mg/lb?! Wow, lol.

**Phate** · 04-13-2010, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Tyler694

10mg/lb?! Wow, lol.

like i said, don't do it, you'll more than likely die

**Kratos** · 04-13-2010, 11:48 AM

I'm not intested in confirming it phate...that's all I'm saying.
I wouldn't run the two together...but then again I wouldn't use s4 period
have used dnp at pretty high doses.

been suffering eye problems ever since
chronic dry eye, extreme light sensitivity ect
dr is giving me anti inflamatory drops and it's sorta undercontrol now.
I can't go out on bright days and can't wear my contacts.
Can I confirm it was the DNP...no. But the symptoms stated the day after ending my dnp cycle.

I think if S4 is giving you vision sides and it's a drug of small marginal gains...it's maddness not to stop taking it given we can't explain what is causing the vision problems or weather it's a real problem or nusance.

**Phate** · 04-13-2010, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

I'm not intested in confirming it phate...that's all I'm saying.
I wouldn't run the two together...but then again I wouldn't use s4 period
have used dnp at pretty high doses.

been suffering eye problems ever since
chronic dry eye, extreme light sensitivity ect
dr is giving me anti inflamatory drops and it's sorta undercontrol now.
I can't go out on bright days and can't wear my contacts.
Can I confirm it was the DNP...no. But the symptoms stated the day after ending my dnp cycle.

I think if S4 is giving you vision sides and it's a drug of small marginal gains...it's maddness not to stop taking it given we can't explain what is causing the vision problems or weather it's a real problem or nusance.

agreed

**OH REALLY** · 04-13-2010, 01:59 PM

OK quick question is DNP a steroid ? and if its not would i be breaking any rules asking where i could ? well you know

**the big 1** · 04-13-2010, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by OH REALLY

OK quick question is DNP a steroid? and if its not would i be breaking any rules asking where i could ? well you know

its not a steroid , its been previously used throughout history as many things including ; dyes for clothing and curtains, explosives in ww2 and then it became the miracle drug for fat loss in the early 90's ??? i think.

so you can now see why its not taken lightly hey ?

**Phate** · 04-13-2010, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by OH REALLY

OK quick question is DNP a steroid? and if its not would i be breaking any rules asking where i could ? well you know

no and no, you can't ask where to get it on the open forum

**OH REALLY** · 04-14-2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

no and no, you can't ask where to get it on the open forum

If i can ask you where to buy protien why is it not ok to ask about DNP ?

**Tyler694** · 04-14-2010, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by OH REALLY

If i can ask you where to buy protien why is it not ok to ask about DNP ?

Protein is legal in the US. DNP, on the other hand, is not.

**liftsmore** · 04-14-2010, 02:11 PM

Could a research chemical company ever carry dnp ?

**Tyler694** · 04-14-2010, 02:51 PM

Highly doubtful.

**Batt** · 04-15-2010, 04:34 AM

Oh Really. Check out lion

**the big 1** · 04-15-2010, 06:26 AM

ar-r dont sell dnp

**Tyler694** · 04-15-2010, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Batt

Oh Really. Check out lion

Maybe they do, but I have never used them.

I have you three separate research chem sites and none of them carry DNP . That's why I said "doubtful".

**Kratos** · 04-15-2010, 07:17 AM

it's a hazmat, and the chem sites that bother to get a hazmat shipping licence don't do business with the average juicer. You've gotta prove to them you're a legit lab or college or something.