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    24 Yr Old S4 Log

    Hey guys

    After my recent failed attempt at doing test e @250mg twice a week, im going to give sarms a try.

    Only reason i failed was, the first shot, i got infected, im on anti biotics for a week as per the good ole doctor. Tossed my 2nd bottle, kept my first one until im clear from the doc, in case any complications come up.

    Here are my stats

    Height - 5'5
    Weight - 146

    Strengths

    Barbell Flat Bench - 225x6
    DB Flat Press - 95x6
    Barbell Incline - 185x10
    DB Incline Press - 80x6
    Dips BW + 90lbs x 10
    CGBP - 135x12
    Military Press - 175x6
    DB Shoulder Press - 70x6

    Barbell Rows - 225x6
    Wide Grip Pull ups - BW +45lbx8
    Wide Grip Pulldowns - 220x6

    Leg Press - 320x10

    Barbell Bicep CUrl - 60lbx12 i know

    Going to order today, and get it some time next week after i get better





    Last edited by sonson; 03-04-2010 at 11:39 PM.

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    thanks for logging this, and good luck with your cycle...

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    This is awesome. I don't think we have a log with someone as young as you.

    thanks!

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    Age is ok(25 perfered) however your physical weight is a little low but you are small 5'5 so could we get a pic to see where you stand?

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    ill take a few pictures when i get home, wont be able to start the cycle for maybe 2 weeks, depending on how long this infection stays around, only been on the antibiotics for 24hrs, so on day 3 it should really start to kick in. good thing is, i feel like my normal self now and i have a lot of energy again.

    monday, which was maybe a day and half after my first pin, i felt so lethargic and slight fever

    forgot to add though, my bf is 10-12%ish according to my friends treadmill grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Age is ok(25 perfered) however your physical weight is a little low but you are small 5'5 so could we get a pic to see where you stand?
    Why is 25 preferred?

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    Taken from marcus300 thread

    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

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    Day 1-5
    Nothing... reved up the dose from 12mg first day, then all the way up to 25mg.

    Day 6
    First full 50mg dose, light to dark transitions is slow, like going from outside to inside.. it takes a while, not disabling, but annoying.

    Went to the gym, was shoulder and upper chest workout. My endurance has defintly increased, reps were pushed to 10-12 range with my normal workout weight, and my pumps were sicker then usual

    Strength wise, i went up some in weight while retaining the same rep range, but i think that has been more my diet and me resting more. However today is the start of my 2nd week, and im doing 50mg every day, so hopefully i will see some strength gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonson View Post
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    i think that has been more my diet and me resting more.
    This is what led me to believe S4 was doing more than it actually did on my 1st cycle. I got tons of strength gains but if I look at my nutrition log, I took in way more carb/calories than I thought I was taking. The food alone would of made me stronger, especially as I was coming-off of super restrictive diet before starting S4.

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    looks like you are starting to see some endurance and strength gains, keep us updated.

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    Day 8

    Tricep and bicep day

    Was doing 80 lb dumbbells, the exercise where you put the dumbbell and your shoulder and then put it behind your head.

    Tricep day i always super-set with a set of varying pressdowns with 60lbs in different positions

    was repping 185 close grip bench press, followed by also more super-setting press downs with 60lbs for 10-12 reps as well.

    this has really been the first time ive done barbell in a long time, since maybe october? have always done dumbbells, didnt think i would be able to push that much on the barbell, so something is definetly going on, however i have always had really good endurance

    taking today and tommrow off, will return on monday on back day.
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    dude keep me updated im been looking into take AR-R S4. your only a year older so i hope u get some awesome results

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    Definitely keep this log going.

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    yes keep this log going. What dose are you using now?

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    Day 11

    Back day

    I do 4 sets of BW pull ups widest grip on that bar and i superset it with 120lb pulldowns widegrip

    1st set, did all the way to 16 pullups, used to be able to do only 14

    following sets i did 10, then 12, then 10 again. as for super sets i did 10 reps of the pulldowns @ 120lb.

    rows i did 155lb x10, 4 sets with the barbell, supersetting it with 120lb on the cable rows, did 8 reps on that, per set

    then i went back to pull ups, arms shoulder width, not wide, palms facing out.

    did not get a lot of reps with that, my biceps are VERy weak lol, but i really need to start focusing on them. got 5 reps out of that, super set with same width pulldowns to get the stubborn fibers. rince and repeat with palms facing me, same style.

    finished off back with the machine where u can hit your rear delts, did 120lb stack, super setting with explosive pushups starting out with diamond spacing then shoulder width, then wide, all to failure, 4 sets of that

    finished of my deltoid on the buttery fly machine for your shoulders. now there, i noticed a BIG increase in strength, i always focus on 1 arm at a time, did 4 sets of 140lbs each arm @ 5-6 reps.

    im only dosing 50mg ed now, not planning any higher, im just looking more to lose weight, then im going to do an H-Drol cycle once i finish my preload for my liver and BP


    also, forgot to note, i try not to rest more than 90-120 secs between sets
    Last edited by sonson; 03-02-2010 at 10:56 PM.

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    Good luck with your cycle....keep everyone posted and post up some pictures.....

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    forgot to add im horny as a MoFO! im getting rdy to go to gym i see my desktop BG and i want to knock one off b4 i do, but i cant dont want my workout to suffer lol

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    Day 14-15

    Chest day

    Did 225x3, made the mistake of warming up too much, that sort of messed me up


    Following Day

    Really tired, did not look to do big Deadlift numbers, just went for speed deadlifts, and supersetting it with leg presses@ 180lb till failure
    deadlift weight was only 135 but i would do about 16 reps+- really fast

    Continued with biceps, did not go for higher lbs, just pushed till failure, rested for 10secs and squeezed out one more rep, Pumps are really looking good. very veiny, forearms were going bananas and biceps had all the cool looking veins popping out

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    Is this the SARMS from AR-R ?

    Either way im interested in your progression.

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    this is sarms from AR-R .

    Day 16

    Today is just rest day, maybe will do some cardio and some stretching/massaging with the foam roller is time permits later today. Got my new tires and windscreen for my bike today to put on! Also vision sides have gotten a little more noticible, also note i am not going to go more than 50mg a day. This morning was the first time i seen the dreaded Sarm Demons, woke up to go pee, kept on blinking and saw demon like figures in the after image. kinda spooky lol

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    are the pics you added on your first post new or before you started S4?

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    Great info...keep it comin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    are the pics you added on your first post new or before you started S4?
    pics are before, finally found my usb camera adapter

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    Subbed. Good log.

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    Good info. Thanks for the thread

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    whatever happened to this guy i wish he would have finished the log

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    as well as i

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