GYNO STICKING AROUND, i've tried almost everything...

[bootiehunter]

so here's my brief history. my first cycle was five years ago it consisted of minimum dosage of ACL ''tren'' for four weeks. a year later the same thing, six months after 20-40mg oral winny for 6 weeks straight into a tren cycle...not brilliant. from that i got a pea sized lump under one nipple however that quickly subsided on its own. i repeated the ''tren'' cycle of 2-3 pills a day for 6-8 weeks two more times in the following year. this brings me to october 2010.

in october i took a halodrol ph for five weeks and noticed slight swelling but not much tenderness that i recall. i swore to myself i would never take any ''serious'' stuff again as i was and still am 6' - 210lbs @ 8%. however being silly i took hmg from American cellular labs new company Lion Heart. for those of you not familiar it is 15mg of epistane per pill. they recommend 1-3 per day and i took 2. after 11 days BOOM gyno...soreness and swelling. i quit immediately. i know people are going to say gyno from epi, but yes.. that is of course if it is truely epi that this notorious company is actually putting in these pills.

that began my long journey of battling this situation. i jumped on formastane, aka ''estro'' by the same company as the hmg. i took 5 ED for 30 days...nothing. then tried bpi a-hd by recommendation of a local supp. shop owner who didn't sell the product btw but had used it...nothing. then i took formastane again for two months because i couldn't get my hands on anything else. then tried pct revolutions and that seemed to flare things up moreso. finally i got my hands on prescription letrozole. i took .625mg day 1-2, 1.25mg days 3-4, then 2.5mg ED days 5-18, then tapered down much slower than i had tapered up for fear of estro rebound. this seemed to help slightly but still the soreness continued. i started a trib, longjack, hornygoat weed, yadayada supp for natural test/natural estro suppression. still sore and puffy. i just ordered nolva and clomid but idk what the deal is. am i just super prone to gyno...i mean who gets it from epi. most consider epi anti-e. my thoughts are any extra test in my body whether epi or trib or anything will cause aromatization at this point.

PLEASE HELP, I'VE TRIED SO MUCH AND READ SO MUCH...WTF!

P.S. i have been off of trib mixture for 3 weeks because i was trying to wait for my body to ''reset'' on its own but i fear its still steamrolling in the other direction. also i recreationally smoked pot and drank for the last 4 years but have quit both of those as well. and i cannot afford to go to the doc and have no insurance. thanks again!

[AnabolicBoy1981]

tip 1, don't do any supplement company frankenstein steroids, EVER. Stick to time tested real gear. They have more studies and more experience from people world wide that you can rely on. They are more predictable, and safe. Case in point my brother took ALRI's max LMG which wasn't even a C-17 and his liver values were so elevated the report didn't even say "high" it said "ALERT".

Tip 2, do you're letro longer. Go do 2.5 mgs for a month. Serious, it wont kill you. I did that for 5 months as an experment . (It boosted my testosterone from about 600 to about 1500). Anyway, and dont bother tapering up, that's stupid. Your gonna be at 2.5 anyway, so start there. You only have to taper down. And when it comes to that i'd taper off for as long as you were on. Reduce it by .25 every few days. I was at 2.5 for 5 months then tapred off for 2 months. But yeah, you need more time IMO for letro to work its anti gyno magic. You werent at a a high enough dose for a long enough time.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

oh, tip 3, stay the **** off trib an stupid herbals. Trib can raise test like 50 % but raises estrogen like 80%. Unlike most other test boosters trib raises test through a mechanism not relying on aromatase in inhibition. Therefore its useless for you. Herbs are unstudied and can potentially be more estrogenic than androgenic

[Lemonada8]

Have u tried tamox?

from personal exp, that works better.

[FCVtec]

. i swore to myself i would never take any ''serious'' stuff again

Dude, all the "Frankenstein" stuff and you oral cycles have damaged you MUCH more than if you had done injectables or even orals with a test base and proper PCT... PH s and these designer steroid have no track record and IMHO they are to say the least dangerous... The "serious stuff" is what you are doing right now.

About the gyno... I am prone to it but I run anastrozole while on cycle and always a proper PCT (I like nolva/clomid) And no GYNO here... Just a small bit from when I did PH cycle a Loooong time ago when I thought I wasnt ready for the "serious stuff"... I look back and realize I did not know nearly as much as I thought I did.

[Tbound]

I can tell you this. Both pot and booze will raise estro levels by themselves, bro.

[Srobis15]

I agree. Try using Letro a little longer and see if it helps. If it doesnt work, you may just have to go for the ol' scalpel and get it excised.

[bootiehunter]

i cant get a hold of letro for research anymore. are any of the research sites legitimate?

[Walnutz]

i cant get a hold of letro for research anymore. are any of the research sites legitimate?

The banner up top. www.ar-r.com

[qwicksilver]

I have yet to do this as I havent had the time to dedicate to it, but what about running nolva at like 10-20mg for 6 months?

Isn't that what actual research articles are showing? 6 months of nolva = less bitch tits?

[Lemonada8]

i did like 6 weeks of nolva, and that took care of my pubertal gyno. *at 20mg. when i bumped it up to 40 it seemed to return but uneven. im now 2 months out and gyno is still gone.

[AstheticKing]

fomrstane and letro have already been used? try formestane by competitive edge labs its a cream u can rub directly on ur nips after showers and add ur letro to that at 0.5 a day and nolva 20mg a day if that does not work...surgery..sorry bro

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