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    First Timer for....well, anything

    50 yr old, natty bodybuilder for 30 yrs

    I've done some research and think I've settled on trying RAD 140. I do not want to do an injectable or harder AAS so this seems like a good option.

    I'm wondering if I need bloodwork as I've read for AAS?

    And is it taboo to ask for a source for SARMS too?

    Thanks

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    At 50 years old the first thing I would recommend is finding out you natural testosterone level.
    See if you are eligible for TRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaroguru View Post
    50 yr old, natty bodybuilder for 30 yrs

    I've done some research and think I've settled on trying RAD 140. I do not want to do an injectable or harder AAS so this seems like a good option.

    I'm wondering if I need bloodwork as I've read for AAS?

    And is it taboo to ask for a source for SARMS too?

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    At 50 years old the first thing I would recommend is finding out you natural testosterone level.
    See if you are eligible for TRT.
    Absolutely agree with TDD here. Investigating TRT should be your first course of action.

    SARMS are typically as suppressive as AAS and don't have the track record of AAS. That said Ostarine is reported to be both the most researched and 'safest' of the SARMS. The general thought is that if you are going to shut yourself down, make it worth the while and use AAS (I'm including test here).

    Whether you go SARMS or AAS, you will still have to PCT if you aren't on trt. At your age, restart isn't guaranteed and thus one cycle might make you require trt.

    I'm using a lot of words to say that it would be smart to look into trt first lol
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    Thank you guys

    After more reading, you have me interested in MK2866

    I've had my test checked in the past few years twice with readings of 380 and 520. I have morning wood every day, feel great, not sluggish; so I believe my natty test levels, while on the low side, are acceptable. I'd really rather wait until they aren't before exploring TRT to be honest. I don't want to have to have that for the rest of my life just yet.

    That said, I think SARMs are the thing I've been looking for. I've contemplated test and even had a first cycle all lined up with everything I needed, but backed out.

    So even though my results with sarms may be less than aas, I'm ok with that.

    So, all that said, would you recommend mk or rad for my first? It seems as though MK may have less sides, no?

    And if I went that way, I take 100mg DHEA every day; would I stop this during cycle and restart with pct?

    Do I need PCT with MK2866?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaroguru View Post
    Thank you guys

    After more reading, you have me interested in MK2866

    I've had my test checked in the past few years twice with readings of 380 and 520. I have morning wood every day, feel great, not sluggish; so I believe my natty test levels, while on the low side, are acceptable. I'd really rather wait until they aren't before exploring TRT to be honest. I don't want to have to have that for the rest of my life just yet.

    That said, I think SARMs are the thing I've been looking for. I've contemplated test and even had a first cycle all lined up with everything I needed, but backed out.

    So even though my results with sarms may be less than aas, I'm ok with that.

    So, all that said, would you recommend mk or rad for my first? It seems as though MK may have less sides, no?

    And if I went that way, I take 100mg DHEA every day; would I stop this during cycle and restart with pct?

    Do I need PCT with MK2866?
    Lgd4033 is really good for gaining muscle can be used to cut too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaroguru View Post
    Thank you guys

    After more reading, you have me interested in MK2866

    I've had my test checked in the past few years twice with readings of 380 and 520. I have morning wood every day, feel great, not sluggish; so I believe my natty test levels, while on the low side, are acceptable. I'd really rather wait until they aren't before exploring TRT to be honest. I don't want to have to have that for the rest of my life just yet.

    That said, I think SARMs are the thing I've been looking for. I've contemplated test and even had a first cycle all lined up with everything I needed, but backed out.

    So even though my results with sarms may be less than aas, I'm ok with that.

    So, all that said, would you recommend mk or rad for my first? It seems as though MK may have less sides, no?

    And if I went that way, I take 100mg DHEA every day; would I stop this during cycle and restart with pct?

    Do I need PCT with MK2866?
    You will likely need PCT with MK2866, based on my readings. Some people can get away without it if they keep the doses low, but at your (our) age, I personally wouldn't risk it.

    There are a few users on Reddit that claim to have run clomid / enclomiphene with MK2866 (Ostarine) and avoided shutdown, and thus the need for PCT, entirely. I MAY attempt to replicate this at some point as at present I use Clomid for HRT, but I've a couple of issues to sort out first.

    Keep the DHEA.

    The general consensus here is likely to be something like: if you are going to risk shutdown at your age, you may as well use AAS because TRT is likely in your future. This is, after all, a steroid discussion forum. That said, it is not a bad view point. However, if you can use a SARM with a SERM to avoid shutdown entirely, then that would be sort of the best of both worlds. I would recommend reading up on the Ostarine / Clomid stack (at least as well as you can - there isn't a truck load of info on that) if you decide to go that route.

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