Do you think we are gonna enter WWIII?

SVTMuscle* · 07-14-2006, 12:17 AM

I really do not know what is going on in the world right now, but it appears that everyone is getting into shit with everyone. Between N.Korea, Israel, and whats going on with Iraq, everyone is saying we are about to enter another world war.
Does anyone feel the same?

**IBdmfkr** · 07-14-2006, 12:27 AM

Seems like it's already pretty much started... I don't see us backing out anytime soon.

**Kärnfysikern** · 07-14-2006, 03:52 AM

Not likely. I cant think of anything that could pull russia, china and europe into war.

**The OutLord** · 07-14-2006, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by johan

Not likely. I cant think of anything that could pull russia, china and europe into war.

1 : A nuclear Exploion in meddel east and a brutal wind and No limit of death is a good start for a new WW3!!!.

Nuclear expoltion in this area!! whay not!If some one get one i put my head that It will be in use!!!(And i am not taking about Isreal now becouas thay have Nuclear if i dont remember rong!)

2 : Somthing more happend and Israel Enermy around the area react in hate ore somthing.
The flame is already burning....
It`s just to put up the flame on the Wood Pile!!

We ARE closer then a millimetre to a great war!!.

I hopp under "G8-meeting"
The economic power hous and weapon power hous taking about what to do!
One solution only in Middeleast.
I hopp the solution is -:What ever happend , Now full scale power war!.
Ore all of the powerhous Nation go in and supervise every square centimetre no matter what Nation in meddeleast.

**Logan13** · 07-14-2006, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

I really do not know what is going on in the world right now, but it appears that everyone is getting into shit with everyone. Between N.Korea, Israel, and whats going on with Iraq, everyone is saying we are about to enter another world war.
Does anyone feel the same?

It is a tense time right now worldwide: India, Africa, Iraq, Iran, N.korea, lebannon, Israel, and Palestine. For the bigger countries to get invloved, the violence would really have to escalate. This is further evidence that the UN is worthless. What conflicts have they truely resolved in the past 10 years? Can someone please tell me what the reason for their existance is?

**Phreak101** · 07-14-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

I really do not know what is going on in the world right now, but it appears that everyone is getting into shit with everyone. Between N.Korea, Israel, and whats going on with Iraq, everyone is saying we are about to enter another world war.
Does anyone feel the same?

Nah. Basically this is a conflict that is being overseen by superpowers who are involved to protect their own interests. Nothing going on presently could start a war that would pull enough of the superpowers in to call it a "World War".

Rest assured, the nest "World War" we have will probably be the last, interpret that how you like.

**Phreak101** · 07-14-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Logan13

It is a tense time right now worldwide: India, Africa, Iraq, Iran, N.korea, lebannon, Israel, and Palestine. For the bigger countries to get invloved, the violence would really have to escalate. This is further evidence that the UN is worthless. What conflicts have they truely resolved in the past 10 years? Can someone please tell me what the reason for their existance is?

I agree. The current UN is rather bloated and useless. It seems like everything they do ends up being for nothing. Besides, how can anything get accomplished when the major veto powers don't see eye to eye?

**Superhuman** · 07-14-2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by The OutLord

1 : A nuclear Exploion in meddel east and a brutal wind and No limit of death is a good start for a new WW3!!!.

Nuclear expoltion in this area!! whay not!If some one get one i put my head that It will be in use!!!(And i am not taking about Isreal now becouas thay have Nuclear if i dont remember rong!)

2 : Somthing more happend and Israel Enermy around the area react in hate ore somthing.
The flame is already burning....
It`s just to put up the flame on the Wood Pile!!

We ARE closer then a millimetre to a great war!!.

I hopp under "G8-meeting"
The economic power hous and weapon power hous taking about what to do!
One solution only in Middeleast.
I hopp the solution is -:What ever happend , Now full scale power war!.
Ore all of the powerhous Nation go in and supervise every square centimetre no matter what Nation in meddeleast.

sorry, I just found that funny. there definitely is much going on right now, volcano in columbia, israel vs palestine, north korea

**FranKieC** · 07-14-2006, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Phreak101

I agree. The current UN is rather bloated and useless. It seems like everything they do ends up being for nothing. Besides, how can anything get accomplished when the major veto powers don't see eye to eye?

Amen

That Veto power is bullshit..None of them ever agree! It's actually pretty pathetic.

**Johny-too-small** · 07-14-2006, 01:25 PM

Osama started WWIII on 9/11.

**Kärnfysikern** · 07-14-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Logan13

It is a tense time right now worldwide: India, Africa, Iraq, Iran, N.korea, lebannon, Israel, and Palestine. For the bigger countries to get invloved, the violence would really have to escalate. This is further evidence that the UN is worthless. What conflicts have they truely resolved in the past 10 years? Can someone please tell me what the reason for their existance is?

Maby the UN's first intention and the reason it was created was resolving conflicts. But today I think its most important task is the aid it gives, the fight against aids, the IAEA ect.

Not everything is about conflicts

Disease kill many more people than war. Famine aswell. All we hear about is the conflicts. I guess its not as sexy for news reporters to report on the good job the UN does to fight disease and famine and improve education.

**Logan13** · 07-14-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by johan

Maby the UN's first intention and the reason it was created was resolving conflicts. But today I think its most important task is the aid it gives, the fight against aids, the IAEA ect.

Not everything is about conflicts

Disease kill many more people than war. Famine aswell. All we hear about is the conflicts. I guess its not as sexy for news reporters to report on the good job the UN does to fight disease and famine and improve education.

I would agree with that, and perhaps the UN does serve a purpose. But I am all for doing away with the Security Counsel, one leg of the UN that is truely worthless and does not live up to its own charter.

**Kärnfysikern** · 07-14-2006, 01:56 PM

The veto right seems to make the security counsel pretty useless yeah

**juiceboxxx** · 07-14-2006, 01:59 PM

I think we will have a world war 3.

I think Isreal will attack Syria. Iran wll then defend Syria and attack Isreal (maybe nuke them too_ then U.s and Isreal v.s Middle east then who knows who could join at that point maybe russia anyone probably u.k and france will helpt he states too

**Kärnfysikern** · 07-14-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by juiceboxxx

I think we will have a world war 3.

I think Isreal will attack Syria. Iran wll then defend Syria and attack Isreal (maybe nuke them too_ then U.s and Isreal v.s Middle east then who knows who could join at that point maybe russia anyone probably u.k and france will helpt he states too

No country that means anything would step in to protect the middle east.

Lets just hope Iran hasnt managed to get there hands on a nuke because if they have it means alot of iranian inocents will die after the nutcase president kills alot of inocent israelis.

**Phreak101** · 07-14-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by johan

No country that means anything would step in to protect the middle east.

Lets just hope Iran hasnt managed to get there hands on a nuke because if they have it means alot of iranian inocents will die after the nutcase president kills alot of inocent israelis.

Agreed. The middle east is the equivalent of of the IT guy at your job. No one likes him, but no one tells him because everyone needs him for something.

As long as the middle east has OPEC, the world will continue to revolve their affairs around it. But if it came down to a war that involved anything but oil distribution, no country is dumb enough to risk all out war simply for the Islamic fundamentalist bullshit that is causing the conflict in the first place.

If Iran has nukes, God help us all. I must say I hope I live long enough to see the mass production of hydrogen powered cars. I savor the idea of the day when the world can tell the Middle East to blow itself when this kinda shit starts...

**Logan13** · 07-14-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Phreak101

Agreed. The middle east is the equivalent of of the IT guy at your job. No one likes him, but no one tells him because everyone needs him for something.

As long as the middle east has OPEC, the world will continue to revolve their affairs around it. But if it came down to a war that involved anything but oil distribution, no country is dumb enough to risk all out war simply for the Islamic fundamentalist bullshit that is causing the conflict in the first place.

If Iran has nukes, God help us all. I must say I hope I live long enough to see the mass production of hydrogen powered cars. I savor the idea of the day when the world can tell the Middle East to blow itself when this kinda shit starts...

Well put.

**juiceboxxx** · 07-14-2006, 03:04 PM

lol keep em comming

**juiceboxxx** · 07-14-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by juiceboxxx

lol keep em comming

**Phreak101** · 07-14-2006, 03:13 PM

I realized my previous post was a bit blanketed. For the record, I have no problems with the hard working people of the Middle East. They are victims of circumstance and are being pulled every which way as the world tries to figure out what to do with them.

It is a sad state of affairs that innocent people are dying over there, but again, I savor the day when the prince of Saudi Arabia can no longer cover his 19th Mercedes in diamonds (as opposed to feeding starving people) because all the oil money is gone.

**Badgerman** · 07-14-2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Phreak101

I realized my previous post was a bit blanketed. For the record, I have no problems with the hard working people of the Middle East. They are victims of circumstance and are being pulled every which way as the world tries to figure out what to do with them.

It is a sad state of affairs that innocent people are dying over there, but again, I savor the day when the prince of Saudi Arabia can no longer cover his 19th Mercedes in diamonds (as opposed to feeding starving people) because all the oil money is gone.

911 would have never happened if we quit propping up corrupt regimes in the mideast.........just ask OSB.........get the military out of the mideast......and get our pres out of bed with the saudi royal family

**Kärnfysikern** · 07-14-2006, 05:44 PM

The good thing about these conflicts is that they drive oil prices way up. The western world are starting to realise they can not depend on oil anymore. The higher the prices the better. Its just a forewarning of what to come when those oil well starts to run dry anyway.

Id say start mass producing diesel out of coal instead and start building power plants in order to produce hydrogen. Screw the middle eastern oil. The higher prices are well worth it in order to distance ourself from the shitheads grabbing all the oil money in those countries.

To bad no politician would be able to get the support from the avarage joe to implement any kind of long term plan like that. Maby its human nature to be short sighted as ****. But now is the time for politicians to become visionaries again and not just poll whores.

**alphaman** · 07-14-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by johan

The good thing about these conflicts is that they drive oil prices way up. The western world are starting to realise they can not depend on oil anymore. The higher the prices the better. Its just a forewarning of what to come when those oil well starts to run dry anyway.

Id say start mass producing diesel out of coal instead and start building power plants in order to produce hydrogen. Screw the middle eastern oil. The higher prices are well worth it in order to distance ourself from the shitheads grabbing all the oil money in those countries.

To bad no politician would be able to get the support from the avarage joe to implement any kind of long term plan like that. Maby its human nature to be short sighted as ****. But now is the time for politicians to become visionaries again and not just poll whores.

It's only a matter of time. I agree with you in the sense that it's positve that these times are drawing us closer to getting rid of our dependence on oil. Unfortuneatley, it's gonna take a catalyst that hurts our pockets. Enviromental awareness isn't doing squat. It stinks on the short term though. The market has gone down over 3% in the last three days!

**mcpeepants** · 07-14-2006, 08:22 PM

I don't think there will WWIII anytime soon, disregarding accidently firing of a nuke. But there plently of civil wars and regional interfighting and none that should cause any global fighting. I see the supposed nuclear threats of Iran and North Korea as mainly crying wolf. Quite reminicent of what was said about the Soviet Union and how crazy they were and how they would end the world. Saber rattling isn't going to win allies or solve anything.

**Kale** · 07-14-2006, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Badgerman

911 would have never happened if we quit propping up corrupt regimes in the mideast.........just ask OSB.........get the military out of the mideast......and get our pres out of bed with the saudi royal family

And lets not forget to get the Israelies out of Israel

**Logan13** · 07-15-2006, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by mcpeepants

I don't think there will WWIII anytime soon, disregarding accidently firing of a nuke. But there plently of civil wars and regional interfighting and none that should cause any global fighting. I see the supposed nuclear threats of Iran and North Korea as mainly crying wolf. Quite reminicent of what was said about the Soviet Union and how crazy they were and how they would end the world. Saber rattling isn't going to win allies or solve anything.

Cuban Missle Crisis. We never have stood for that kind of shit and we never will. BTW, recall that the CMC was handled under the last really good Democratic president, JFK. Back then, Dems did not stick their heads in the sand and hope that things get better on its own. To be fair, Clinton (who I voted for 2X) could have been a better president were it not for the Lawonski(sp?) scandel.

**Kale** · 07-15-2006, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

Cuban Missle Crisis. We never have stood for that kind of shit and we never will. BTW, recall that the CMC was handled under the last really good Democratic president, JFK. Back then, Dems did not stick their heads in the sand and hope that things get better on its own. To be fair, Clinton (who I voted for 2X) could have been a better president were it not for the Lawonski(sp?) scandel.

Anybody that cops a blow job under the desk at work, is all right in my book

**Badgerman** · 07-15-2006, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

Cuban Missle Crisis. We never have stood for that kind of shit and we never will. BTW, recall that the CMC was handled under the last really good Democratic president, JFK. Back then, Dems did not stick their heads in the sand and hope that things get better on its own. To be fair, Clinton (who I voted for 2X) could have been a better president were it not for the Lawonski(sp?) scandel.

Ummmmm.......who aimed missles at Russia first from Turkey??.....sorry to say but our country leads the way when it comes to threats and arms races.......

SVTMuscle* · 07-15-2006, 08:59 AM

I'm getting a lot less confused here, good job

SVTMuscle* · 07-15-2006, 11:12 AM

Wait wait wait, Hezbulah (sp?) captured 2 Isralei soldiers, and Israel is attacking Lebonon to get Hezbulah right? and in retalation Hezbulah is attacking Israel?

**mcpeepants** · 07-15-2006, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Logan13

Cuban Missle Crisis. We never have stood for that kind of shit and we never will. BTW, recall that the CMC was handled under the last really good Democratic president, JFK. Back then, Dems did not stick their heads in the sand and hope that things get better on its own. To be fair, Clinton (who I voted for 2X) could have been a better president were it not for the Lawonski(sp?) scandel.

The Cuban missle crisis was just a another tit for tat between the US and the Soviet Union just like berlin blockade. The US placed nuclear missles in Turkey that could hit Soviet cities so the Soviets responded by putting nukes in Cuba. The Soviet Union ended up withdrawing it's nukes from Cuba and the US removed it's nukes from Turkey.

I am not a democrat or a republican and have not voted for either party.

**Bryan2** · 07-15-2006, 01:34 PM

I would like for you guys to keep an eye on the UN during these times and the continued call from the worlds nations to support them.

The UN really doesnt have to much power yet but I think that this is going to change very shortly.

And honestly It makes me think what kind of actions that a world governing body would empose to try and protect peace???

I can bet some new laws are going to pop up after they do get more power regarding some of the key factors in war......... namely religion

**Logan13** · 07-15-2006, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by mcpeepants

The Cuban missle crisis was just a another tit for tat between the US and the Soviet Union just like berlin blockade. The US placed nuclear missles in Turkey that could hit Soviet cities so the Soviets responded by putting nukes in Cuba. The Soviet Union ended up withdrawing it's nukes from Cuba and the US removed it's nukes from Turkey.

I am not a democrat or a republican and have not voted for either party.

IMO, if you do not vote you have waved your right to bitching and complaining.

**mcpeepants** · 07-15-2006, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Logan13

IMO, if you do not vote you have waved your right to bitching and complaining.

I just don't vote from dems or repubs. voted Nader in 2004 and was slightly to young to vote in 2000.

**kdawg21** · 07-15-2006, 08:13 PM

Nader huh......

So you actually wasted your vote....... that is worse than not voting.

**Badgerman** · 07-15-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by kdawg21

Nader huh......

So you actually wasted your vote....... that is worse than not voting.

Better than wasting a mind.......like you dickweed
The kid votes his conscience and you call it a waste.......
The biggest waste of votes were on the knob we have in the whitehouse right now.........thanks to dim wits like yourself

**kdawg21** · 07-15-2006, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Badgerman

Better than wasting a mind.......like you dickweed
The kid votes his conscience and you call it a waste.......
The biggest waste of votes were on the knob we have in the whitehouse right now.........thanks to dim wits like yourself

Sounds like someone is a sore loser..........

I paid my dues so he could waste his vote. So lets get something straight, If I want any crap out of you I will squeeze your head.

**Badgerman** · 07-15-2006, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by kdawg21

Sounds like someone is a sore loser..........

I paid my dues so he could waste his vote. So lets get something straight, If I want any crap out of you I will squeeze your head.

You didn't pay shit..........you sign up.......you pull a salary.......we pay the taxes for you nimrods who would be flippen burgers in a real economy.
Soldiers don't pay any bigger price than a trucker that gets run over.......everybody does a job.......everybody dies.......empires come and go.........and what you or I do means nothing.........let go of that fat ego

**Badgerman** · 07-15-2006, 08:56 PM

I love these guys living off the government...."I paid my dues".......how about........"I guzzled at the trough"

**Logan13** · 07-15-2006, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by mcpeepants

I just don't vote from dems or repubs. voted Nader in 2004 and was slightly to young to vote in 2000.

Then I apologize for my assertion.

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