Anadrol, tren and gyno baking recipe

[fLgAtOr]

This is a two part question:

1) I couldn't find alot of experiences with Abombs and gyno. According to the profiles it seems to be a slightly complicated issue. I'm gyno sensitive, but letro seems to do the trick.

Would you take Nolva, Letro, or Nolva+Letro with anadrol? (Yes, I know nolva is supposed to reduce letro's effectivness, but I think that will depend on the letro dose.)

2) What happens if you throw tren into the mix? So far, it looks like a cool combination considering one is a DHT (with no AR binding) and the other is 19-nor.

But would it end up being a nightmare for gyno control? A. Roberts said that it isn't a progestin or have progestinic activity...yet it seems like no one knows for sure... Would gyno prevention remain the same?

[fLgAtOr]

You boys need to get out of that "liver damage" thread and give me some love...

[guest589745]

Are you saying tren has no progestinic activity? I thought it did......

I hear you can run an AI/SERM but you will have to up the AI dose. How much? Dunno .

Just letro or adex I would think should be enough, along with cabergoline.

[guest589745]

Are you saying tren has no progestinic activity? I thought it did......

I hear you can run an AI/SERM but you will have to up the AI dose. How much? Dunno .

Just letro or adex I would think should be enough, along with cabergoline.

[fLgAtOr]

No, I'm reffering to anadrol. Anadrol seems to cause gyno without involving the aromatase enzyme.

[guest589745]

Oh yes, I see. I am not sure how it exhibits its estrogenic properties either.

Dbol is thought to at least partially cause its gains from GH secretion....for what thats worth lol.

[fLgAtOr]

The ultimate goal would be to combine the DHT Anadrol and the 19nor Tren for a SYNERGISTIC stack AS ross WOULD say.

But I'm nervous about compounds that "we don't really know why or how it causes gyno, just that it does." Lol...

So I guess I'm looking for people that have run them together. I found a couple threads but they seemed incomplete and never discussed results.

[guest589745]

Why not run a DHT that you know by what means it can cause gyno ? Or better yet, injectable DHT's that I know of like masteron and winstrol, virtually NEVER cause gyno and they lower SHBG/estrogen .

????

[fLgAtOr]

Why not run a DHT that you know by what means it can cause gyno ? Or better yet, injectable DHT's that I know of like masteron and winstrol, virtually NEVER cause gyno and they lower SHBG/estrogen .

????

This of course would be the most intelligent and logical choice.

Well we're looking for a purely bulking combo. I'd have to get others experience with bulking (I guess lean bulk) on the masteron and winny...Just don't seem like the first choices, from what I've read.

Nark is supposed to be a DHT pimp...

[guest589745]

The whole bulk/cut thing to me, relies heavily on what you eat and how you train.

I am going to be running this:

700 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate week 1-11 (19nor/joint relief)
400 Drostanolone propionate week 1-11 (DHT/SHBG/Estrogen lowering/Androgenic)
200 Trenbolone Acetate week 1-8 (Little "boost")
50mg Methandrostenolone ED 1-5 (Non AR mech)

I might cahnge the doses around or I might change my mind completely lol.

[fLgAtOr]

The whole bulk/cut thing to me, relies heavily on what you eat and how you train.

I agree... Me being blessed (read: cursed) with the tall lanky genes I tend to bulk a little more "dirty" than some.

I've heard alot of "don't take mast unless you're below __%bf" etc etc etc.... So really, I just want to make sure that I will get the full benefit of the compound I'm using.

That, and anadrol sounds like fun.

[guest589745]

The strength gains from androgenic compounds are what Im interested in. I want to see first hand if that "Low bf" shit is true, which I beleive is not. That kind of rumor makes people think that all masteron will do is make you lose a little bodyfat. I doubt that is entirely true and with the NPP/Dbol?lil tren, I would expcet somethign great.

But thast not what you are asking so, I dunno man, try it and see for yourself, its the only way to know exactly what to do and what will happen.

[fLgAtOr]

Thanks Skull.

You boys need to get out of that "liver damage" thread and give me some love...

Damn...this was no joke...

[*Narkissos*]

Why not run a DHT that you know by what means it can cause gyno ? Or better yet, injectable DHT's that I know of like masteron and winstrol, virtually NEVER cause gyno and they lower SHBG/estrogen .

????

bump.

Tho winstrol can cause gyno... check that out.

And moderate dose winstrol + tren = hair loss for me.

This being important due to the fact that i loss NO hair on high dose winstrol alone... or moderate dose winstrol + masteron.

The risk of sides for the compounds Flag proposed aren't limited to progestinic gyno.

To the original question... I'd go with Letro..

Letro + nolva? No.

I'd keep cabergoline on hand as well.

[guest589745]

bump.

Those winstrol can cause gyno... check that out.

And moderate dose winstrol + tren = hair loss for me.

This being important due to the fact that i loss NO hair on high dose winstrol alone... or moderate dose winstrol + masteron.

The risk of sides for the compounds Flag proposed aren't limited to progestinic gyno.

To the original question... I'd go with Letro..

Letro + nolva? No.

I'd keep cabergoline on hand as well.

I know it CAN cause gyno but, isn't it generally unheard of ? At least moreso than test or deca for example ?

[*Narkissos*]

I know it CAN cause gyno but, isn't it generally unheard of ? At least moreso than test or deca for example ?

Yea it's unheard of.. but possible

The point i was making was that he needs to investigate and weigh each solution.

The weight of the possible side effects should be a major determinant in his cycle choice.

Personally, i'd go with masteron as opposed to win (*sigh* "i love you win" ) or drol

[guest589745]

Yea it's unheard of.. but possible

The point i was making was that he needs to investigate and weigh each solution.

The weight of the possible side effects should be a major determinant in his cycle choice.

Personally, i'd go with masteron as opposed to win (*sigh* "i love you win" ) or drol

Yea I hear ya. I agree.

[fLgAtOr]

Thanks Nark.

[FranKieC]

FLG I am running Tren and drol in my next cycle also..

I will keep a log when starting

[fLgAtOr]

FLG I am running Tren and drol in my next cycle also..

I will keep a log when starting

I think one of your treads might of popped up when I searched.

I'll be on the lookout.

Are you going to run test at HRT or higher?

[FranKieC]

I think one of your treads might of popped up when I searched.

I'll be on the lookout.

Are you going to run test at HRT or higher?

The cycle is as follows

1-10 Prop 100mgs ED
1-8TrenA 75-100mgs ED
1-4 Drol 100mgs ED
6-10Winnie 100mgs ED
1-4 10-14 Igf1-lr3 60-80mcgs
Gh4iu's ED 10 months
Adex After the drol (suggested by B D)

Edited for spelling

[fLgAtOr]

The cycle is as follows

1-10 Prop 100mgs ED
1-8TrenA 75-100mgs ED
1-4 Drol 100mgs ED
6-10Winnie 100mgs ED
1-4 10-14 Igf1-lr3 60-80mcgs
Gh4iu's ED 10 months
Adex After the drol (suggested by B D)

Edited for spelling

Oh I see...

Have you ever had gyno probs (with/without drol)? (I'm assuming you've run drol before).

[FranKieC]

Oh I see...

Have you ever had gyno probs (with/without drol)? (I'm assuming you've run drol before).

Yes, I am gyno prone