All of my shots causing huge lumps and bad soreness, is it my fault?

[guest589745]

With testosterone enanthaet/cypionate and nandrolone decanoate in th epast, I usually got a sore injection the first time but after that they were basically completely pain/lump free.

Now with nandrolone phenylpropionate, testosterone propionate, drostanolone propionate, boldenone propionate and adequan (Not at the same time) I have always had a huge lump sometimes the same day and lasting anywhere from 4-7 days, all of them. I don't ever have pain during the injection but after, man, it can be kinda bad. They are not infections or I beleive they would be unbearable and not go away (?) but they are still annoying.

Could this be from the way I made them or do these esters commonly cause this?

I apply heat and massage but still occurs.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

well seein 23 ppl check ur thread out and no1 commmented anything im tell ya what i know.. my buddy took the same stuff ur taken and he would also get lumps where he injected and would last for a couple days and thaught i did something wrong. but ive looked into it and i guess its common for the propionate on some ppl to do that. ive taken prop before its never happened to me but it happened everytime my friend took a shot :S

[shrpskn]

Something may be amiss...

But the AAS and attached esters you have listed, they are notorious for bringing about some post-injection soreness. Especially the test prop and the EQ prop. You should know that.

NPP and masteron don't cause any issues with me so I don't know...

I certainly don't doubt your homebrew knowledge, but maybe a goof happened somewhere along the line?

Hope everything pans out. Good luck.

[guest589745]

Thanks man.

Yea, I need to see what I can do to alleviate it becasue common methods arent working.

[fLgAtOr]

Didn't you drop the EQ prop?

How much volume are you shooting?

[guest589745]

Didn't you drop the EQ prop?

How much volume are you shooting?

Yea I dropped it I was just listing all of what I had shot.

I am only shooting 2.5ml right now. 3. max

[shrpskn]

Yea I dropped it I was just listing all of what I had shot.

I am only shooting 2.5ml right now. 3. max

Only 2.5mL?? All in one poke? Not so bad with some gear, but...

Sounds like a high volume to me for the aforementioned compounds.

This could definitely cause some issues.

[guest589745]

Only 2.5mL?? All in one poke? Not so bad with some gear, but...

Sounds like a high volume to me for the aforementioned compounds.

This could definitely cause some issues.

Really? Damn, I am shooting EOD

100mg test prop
100mg nandrolone prop
100mg masteron prop

[shrpskn]

Really? Damn, I am shooting EOD

100mg test prop
100mg nandrolone prop
100mg masteron prop

I would cut the volume in half and try shooting 1.5cc/2x EOD or 1.5cc/ED.

Cut down on the volume and see if that helps.

[*Narkissos*]

You're shooting 2.5-3 ml of short esters in one shot.. What do you expect?

Not just specifically short esters (because there ARE non-irritating short esters.. or minimally antagonistic 'short' esters rather)... but prop and phenylprop.

phenylprop for some is worse than prop.

And prop's no party.

[guest589745]

You're shooting 2.5-3 ml of short esters in one shot.. What do you expect?

Not just specifically short esters (because there ARE non-irritating short esters.. or minimally antagonistic 'short' esters rather)... but prop and phenylprop.

phenylprop for some is worse than prop.

And prop's no party.

This is my first time with prop esters, had no idea this would happen.

Would it be any better to do ED and half the volume or not ?

Thank you for your reply.

[*Narkissos*]

This is my first time with prop esters, had no idea this would happen.

Would it be any better to do ED and half the volume or not ?

Thank you for your reply.

Cut it in half by Shooting ED instead.. rotating sites.

1.25-1.5 ml per shot.

Massage post-injection

[guest589745]

Cut it in half by Shooting ED instead.. rotating sites.

1.25-1.5 ml per shot.

Massage post-injection

I'll try it.


Massaging and heat as of right now, don't do much.

[pigrond]

ive used npp and suffered lumps and pain after. my buddy used test prop and always got golf ball lumps and bad pain after i think he was shooting 2 to 3ml eod somewhere in that range anyway.he tried splitting up but still suffered you might be different though you never know till you try

[guest589745]

You would think longer esters would do this as the hormone "builds up" more and is released slower.......?

[fLgAtOr]

I think Nark and Shrp got it.

I had a feeling you were shooting a lot...

[J*U*icEd]

you might not be going deep enough.... ive used most of those compounds at those volumes.... u gotta get it deep 1.5 for glutes and quads.... 1 for all other sites.... ive never had problems like these before.... but the massages and heat should definalty help

[guest589745]

you might not be going deep enough

I use a 1.5 for glutes and 1 for quads/delts .

This is what would happen if i didnt go deep enough ? I probly wouldnt have high BP and gained 16lbs if I wasnt getting it in there dont ya think.....?

[J*U*icEd]

I use a 1.5 for glutes and 1 for quads/delts .

This is what would happen if i didnt go deep enough ? I probly wouldnt have high BP and gained 16lbs if I wasnt getting it in there dont ya think.....?

no ull still get the gain and your body will still get the sauce but youll have more soreness and lumps..... ull also have a greater chance of an abcess

[guest589745]

no ull still get the gain and your body will still get the sauce but youll have more soreness and lumps..... ull also have a greater chance of an abcess

Hmm, interesting....

[guest589745]

Only shit 1.5mls and it doesnt seem to hurt as bad.

We;ll see.......

That sucks that those esters do that shit wtf? Looked liek I shot synthol into my delt.

[yngnastyman]

my prop injection was so bad that i was limping for 2 days, perhaps i should do 1cc in one leg and 1cc in the other? or does the ammount not matter?

[guest589745]

it mioght help I think it has for me but Im givin it one more day.

[guest589745]

I cant even tell where I injected today, hoepfully it lasts....

[yngnastyman]

im honestly terrified to do my next sust 300 injection considering the intense pain in my leg ( i still feel it, did it on thrusday night) so i might do it in my calves, would intense pain in the calves cause a limp? i cant invent a new injury to have to tell my work, parents with every injection...

[guest589745]

split em up, I think it works now.

[yngnastyman]

i hope that would work..and not cause 2 equally painfull sites that make walking impossible

[guest589745]

i hope that would work..and not cause 2 equally painfull sites that make walking impossible

well I wouldnt do it in my calves at all though, not necessary.

[TheSurgeonGeneral]

I have the same issue...If the word props in the equation at all it hurts me..lol..the thing I did, and I am not sAying this fixes everyone , but I mix my oils with methyl-B12 and use all in the same barrell..,.I still feel the prop the next 2-3 days, but alot less..and I am not in so much pain it is uncomfortable to hit the gym...Not sure what posessed me to try this, but it seemed to work fine for me...just my 2 cents

[guest589745]

I have the same issue...If the word props in the equation at all it hurts me..lol..the thing I did, and I am not sAying this fixes everyone , but I mix my oils with methyl-B12 and use all in the same barrell..,.I still feel the prop the next 2-3 days, but alot less..and I am not in so much pain it is uncomfortable to hit the gym...Not sure what posessed me to try this, but it seemed to work fine for me...just my 2 cents

whatup surg, I think I know you

[yngnastyman]

id prefer leg discomfort over upperbody to where it inhibits working out

[guest589745]

id prefer leg discomfort over upperbody to where it inhibits working out

what you dont workout your lower body?

[yngnastyman]

i do, but i focus more on my upper body

[zipster_dude]

Well, I was going to ask what you suspended the test esters in. Thought that might be part of the pain problem. I used grapeseed oil once and thought I was going to need a wheelchair. I guess you dropped your push amount and that is working out for you. Guess it is not the oil.

[guest589745]

Well, I was going to ask what you suspended the test esters in. Thought that might be part of the pain problem. I used grapeseed oil once and thought I was going to need a wheelchair. I guess you dropped your push amount and that is working out for you. Guess it is not the oil.

I did use GSO though.

[zipster_dude]

Let me know if the pain persists. It would be interesting to get another oppinion on the grapeseed oil as it looks as though it could go out the window for these esters. I changed my suspension oil and really felt alot better. These esters are a bitch for me. I am going to experiment with a couple of oils on the next batch.