which part of my chest is lacking?

[davethewavedra]

JW if yall could critique and tell which area of my chest yall think i shoudl hitt harder...and maybe a solid chest routine to hit it! Thx all!

[ronan the barbarian]

imo you have very narrow shoulders so work outer cest and side delts to give apperience of width,
but decent chest for your size as far as i can tell by pics.

also work on shoulders in general cus they are lacking,only my opinion!!

[Haro3]

i think ur chest is fine and everything else is lagging....

[Johny-too-small]

^^^ agreed

[davethewavedra]

what are some good outer chest exercises? i do wish i was a wider built, but i also heard this alot of genetics. would love to know some exercises to help me broader! thx for input!

[Haro3]

heavy shoulder presses, deadlifts, wide grip pull ups.

your chest isnt lagging man its everything else thats lagging your shoulders/arms need a descent amount of work looks like you train chest/abs pretty hard.......

[davethewavedra]

ok will do! once again haro3...thx for advice!

[ronan the barbarian]

really dont worry,nobodys body is perfect...even if they say it is.lol

im a propper lazy pr*ck but my mrs still tells me what looks good,cus lets face it 99% of us wont compete,we only care what women like.

personely,concentrate on shoulders and arms,maybe legs too.

your not goin on stage but untill you think about it,just take the diet/training advice of these guys on here,cus they really know what they are on about.

seriously...........

[jbarkley]

what are some good outer chest exercises? i do wish i was a wider built, but i also heard this alot of genetics. would love to know some exercises to help me broader! thx for input!

If you bring out you outer chest it will help to give you a wider appearance along with working your medial delt, lats and keep your waist tight as is....the best exercise for that is dips, flair the elbows out and drop your head down toward your chest....

[Dude-Man]

If you bring out you outer chest it will help to give you a wider appearance along with working your medial delt, lats and keep your waist tight as is....the best exercise for that is dips, flair the elbows out and drop your head down toward your chest....

Dips definitely don't work your lats. They might work your serratus a bit depending on your technique.

[davethewavedra]

What are the best lat exercises? I do lat pulldowns and i am deff going to start incorporating chins to failure. Also, does it look like i have gyno? I have never tooken as so maybe i just have large nipples? Please comment b/c im panicking b/c someone said it looks like i have gyno

[MFT81]

1. You've got good vascularity.

2. Outer/Lower chest needs brought up. But dont put to much stock into focusing just on one area the chest will develop as nature intended it. Upper chest looks really good for your level of development.

3. Yeah your whole body needs brought up but who's dosent right....

Good Work bro, Hope your not one that benches 3x's a week and does cardio for legs.........

[jbarkley]

[QUOTE=Dude-Man]Dips definitely don't work your lats. They might work your serratus a bit depending on your technique.[/QUOTe
I obviously didn't communicate clearly, dips are for the outer and lower portion of the pecs. What I was referring to with lats and medial delts was for an overall presentation.

[jbarkley]

What are the best lat exercises? I do lat pulldowns and i am deff going to start incorporating chins to failure. Also, does it look like i have gyno? I have never tooken as so maybe i just have large nipples? Please comment b/c im panicking b/c someone said it looks like i have gyno

It's really hard to tell with the shadowing on your nipple area, but what I can see I would say no to the gyno. Chins and bentover barbell rows are two of many great lat exercises. I'd start with chins 3 or 4 sets to failure and work up to being able to doing weighted chins...your lats will get much wider. Bentover barbell rows are great for building thickness in your lats but you'll also see then widen with this exercise as well. In addition, I would recommend bring your shoulders up, wider shoulders are definitely going to help with you overall appearance. Good Luck....

[4runner]

`I am amazed that people think they can target the : outer, lower or inner chest. Bench and Incline is all you can do, your genetics can not be changed.

[jbarkley]

`I am amazed that people think they can target the : outer, lower or inner chest. Bench and Incline is all you can do, your genetics can not be changed.

MRI's during specific exercises have proven that you can indeed target specific areas of your physique.

[AirForceTACP]

`I am amazed that people think they can target the : outer, lower or inner chest. Bench and Incline is all you can do, your genetics can not be changed.

you can target almost every part of your chest.. between all the variations of flys you can shape your chest however you want..

dips get the outer lower, decline flys get the inner lower, incline flys target the upper outer and inner

you're right about the genetic part but that doesnt mean you still cant form your chest to the best it possibly can..

[jbarkley]

you can target almost every part of your chest.. between all the variations of flys you can shape your chest however you want..

dips get the outer lower, decline flys get the inner lower, incline flys target the upper outer and inner

you're right about the genetic part but that doesnt mean you still cant form your chest to the best it possibly can..

That's exactly correct, I have seen guys change dramatically from adding some different variations and angles of lifts. If as bodybuilders we only did the basic lifts we'd look like powerlifters, not that there's anything wrong with that, but if your goals is to compete, it's an entirely different discipline.

[jbarkley]

According to Joe Werifer you can

According to science you can not.

Probably the reason so many scientist aren't bodybuilders.....

[jbarkley]

I am still waiting for you to post a scientific study to support your superstition


Why would a person that smart waste time with bodybuilding??? Better to be healthy, fit and wealthy.

Bro, check out a book by Per Tesch: Target bodybuilding:
High-level strength training programs have advanced almost as fast as technology itself over the past decade. In Target Bodybuilding, Per Tesch combines the two to present weightlifting techniques that magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) has revealed to be most beneficial for muscle building and sculpting.

The book begins with an explanation of the MRI technology and how the information acquired from it takes the guesswork out of training. Tesch then provides a brief anatomical overview, focusing most on the major arm and leg muscle groups that will be targeted in the exercise section that follows.

Per Tesch is an internationally recognized expert in the field of strength training. He is a professor of physiology at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, where he has conducted numerous scientific research studies on skeletal muscle adaptations to weightlifting. Dr. Tesch has been awarded research grants from several renowned agencies, including NASA, the Swedish Sports Federation, the Swedish Air Force, and the U.S. Army. A fellow of the American College of Sports Medicine, Tesch has published more than 130 scientific papers.

[C_Bino]

I am still waiting for you to post a scientific study to support your superstition


Why would a person that smart waste time with bodybuilding??? Better to be healthy, fit and wealthy.

So if you bodybuild you arent fit and healthy? WTF? LMAO.

[davethewavedra]

again! thx for all the input in here guys! all opinions are greatly valued! and thank god for no gyno

[UpstateTank]

`I am amazed that people think they can target the : outer, lower or inner chest. Bench and Incline is all you can do, your genetics can not be changed.

`NOt true at all, just gym myth.

gee ive seen this b4

hello Jason865



thougth u were banned???

[jbarkley]

So if you bodybuild you arent fit and healthy? WTF? LMAO.

And apparently scientist are healthy, fit and wealthy.....go figure...lol

[mavsluva]

If doctors promote good health, then why are so many of them so unfit and unhealthy?

Edit: I'm sorry, I should not have posted this here. It's off the topic of the original post.

[timtim]

According to Joe Weider you can

According to science you can not.

wheres your scientific proof to back up your opinion? all you got is you saying its a myth. that means nothing jason865. wheres the proof?

[4runner]

My proof is simple, you can't flex one area of the chest so spot building is not possible. Read up on muscle contraction and then you will understand.

[Tambit24]

4 runner, please send me the link to where I can buy your book so I can read up on it. Thanks....

[Tambit24]

Sorry. Also, Dave chest looks good. Def lackin the shoulders.

[axemurderer187]

yeah man, just work shoulders, you got an perfect example case of forward shoulders..

I could give you a mean shoulder work out if you want, PM me.

[axemurderer187]

yeah man, just work shoulders, you got an perfect example case of forward shoulders..

I could give you a mean shoulder work out if you want, PM me.

[axemurderer187]

Here you go

http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html

[NotSmall]

Well, IMO you can target upper or lower chest because they are seperate muscles but you cannot specifically target outer or inner - you can work a muscle and make it grow but you cannot determine the shape it will be, that part is genetics, I'm not getting drawn into a debate though...

[4runner]

Well, IMO you can target upper or lower chest because they are seperate muscles but you cannot specifically target outer or inner - you can work a muscle and make it grow but you cannot determine the shape it will be, that part is genetics, I'm not getting drawn into a debate though...

The upper and lower are not seperate muscles, they do howerver have more than one origin so you probably can target the upper part a bit more wiith inclines.


http://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/Med...l/mmlalpha.htm

[wishmasterATM]

chest looks ggood, arms are lagging

[C_Bino]

I am natural and also do quite a bit of cardio so yes I am healthy, as for the pro's well, they are very unhealthy.

I never said anything about pro's. You didnt either, you implied bodybuilding is unhealthy. To be a bodybuilder doesnt mean you have to use steriods. Also you know that all pro's are unhealthy? Damn didnt know you had a file of all pro bodybuilder's health records.

And you say you are natural and do cardio so you are healthy. Well Im not natural and I dont do cardio and Im healthy. Also my dad is natural and does cardio and is unhealthy. I dont think you are making a very good point. Point is bodybuilding is not unhealthy at all.

[timtim]

My proof is simple, you can't flex one area of the chest so spot building is not possible. Read up on muscle contraction and then you will understand.

jason, this is not proof. you asked for literature to back up others claims. where is your proof?

[SMCengineer]

Well, IMO you can target upper or lower chest because they are seperate muscles but you cannot specifically target outer or inner - you can work a muscle and make it grow but you cannot determine the shape it will be, that part is genetics, I'm not getting drawn into a debate though...

Agree with you 100%.

[NewVader]

That's exactly correct, I have seen guys change dramatically from adding some different variations and angles of lifts. If as bodybuilders we only did the basic lifts we'd look like powerlifters, not that there's anything wrong with that, but if your goals is to compete, it's an entirely different discipline.

only if you have a lot of mass already packed on. At the stage this guy is, it won't matter what he does, just he has to increase his mass as much as possbile with basic compound exercises

[davethewavedra]

whoa...never thought it would start such a heated discussion! Thx for all the input!