cycle critique

[amazinspiderman]

Hi.
I've been trying to figure out what my next bulking cycle will be like and i came across an article by Anthony Roberts, "Designing an Anabolic Steroid Cycle".
After reading it and adjusting it accordingly to my needs i came up with something like this:

Weeks 1-12 Sustanon @ 250mg EOD (Frontload)
Weeks 1-8 NPP @ 100mg ED
Weeks 9-13 Winny @ 50mg EOD

I will also be running HGH for my first time starting @ 2iu and upping it to 4iu for 16 weeks.
Can i run nolva @20mg/day and proviron@75mg/day throughout the cycle?
And can someone explain how to frontload the sustanon cause i still have problems understanding how to.

All comments are appreciated, what would you change/do different?
Tkx

[hugovsilva]

Your cycle seems pretty heavy, except for the winny. Why is that?

stats?

[amazinspiderman]

I need to up the dosages on "bulking" steroids like testosterone and NPP cause i have a really hard time getting and keeping mass and the low dosage on the winny is because it's really easy for me, even taking +4000cals, to cut.
I just use the winny to get rid of some of the bloat caused by the sust and to keep some gains when the cycle is over, i did this last time and was able to only loose 1 or 2kg.

I'm 22, 1m75, 78kg, 7%BF, when i was at the end of my last cycle and just taking winny to harden up at the same dosages, 50mg/EOD, i weighted 75kg 6%BF and i don't even try to cut and this was consuming 3500/4000cal.
And i don't weight more because of my legs, they are soooooooo lagged behind.
BTW i'm also from Portugal.

[bigwillystyle]

from what ive read on gh (havent used) it needs to be ran longer than 16 weeks to start seeing major benefits more like 6moths to a year..gh is to damn expensive to be wasting it ..again i dont know everything about gh but just trying to save u some$

[amazinspiderman]

I appreciate your concern and i've also read that, hopefully i'll be able to do the 6 months but so far what i've got will only last me 4
One thing i find very odd is that ppl here say to run it 6 months but i've seen friends of mine take it just during 10 week cycles and they do EXTREMELY well, just throwing it out there.
Tkx for the heads up.

[amazinspiderman]

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[trenzbyotch]

well, your friends could be doing"very well" from diet, training, and juice alone" so hard to tell if gh in 10 weeks is making that much of a difference. but hey run it if you want. doubt it will hurt any. i like this cycle, however, if you have that hard of a time gaining weight, 3500-4000 cals isn't enough for you. add another 500-1000 cals aday and go from there. many peeps with active lifestyles and speedy metabolisms can burn over 3000 cals a day just as maintenace.. also, in my opinion, you don't even need the winny in this cycle.. what for? save it.. things i did to take my physique to a higher level as i also have a high metabolism (. when bulking i eat tons of lean red meat, i mix olive oil with my protein shakes, and eat lots of almonds/and natural peanut butter. and of course lots of natural complex carbs.. good luck yo..

[SMAN12b]

Hi.
I've been trying to figure out what my next bulking cycle will be like and i came across an article by Anthony Roberts, "Designing an Anabolic Steroid Cycle".
After reading it and adjusting it accordingly to my needs i came up with something like this:

Weeks 1-12 Sustanon @ 250mg EOD (Frontload)
Weeks 1-8 NPP @ 100mg ED
Weeks 9-13 Winny @ 50mg EOD

I will also be running HGH for my first time starting @ 2iu and upping it to 4iu for 16 weeks.
Can i run nolva @20mg/day and proviron@75mg/day throughout the cycle?
And can someone explain how to frontload the sustanon cause i still have problems understanding how to.

All comments are appreciated, what would you change/do different?
Tkx

YOu don't need heavier doses to buld, SORRY but that is DIET.....how often are you eating???
I bulked on less than that and put on 30 lbs from EATING EVERY 2 HOURS !!!!!

If your gonna run HGH and i think you are too young to need it, but...you should run it two months before you add in the AAS you will get much more out of it that way.

Winny needs to be ED not EOD.....it has an effective halflife of ONLY 8-12 hours so EOD is like starting fresh with it ....

[amazinspiderman]

Tkx for the replys.
I'm eating every 2.5 hours the problem is i really have to force myself just to get those 4000cal/day where am i gonna put another 1000?
As far as dosages i ran the exact same doages on my previous cycle except for the tren and i gained 15kg i think it's 33lbs, not sure, an was able to keep 12kg, 26lbs.
I don't want to up the dose yet so i'll keep the test ad winstrol dosage the same and up the tren a little bit and run it longer compared to my previous cycle.
The winstrol is just there to help me keep the gains as i noticed that when i throw it in the end of cycles it really helps but when i up the dosage to ED it leans me out BAD.
As far as GH like i said i have enough to do 16 weeks@4iu 5on 2off and i'll follow your advice and run it 2 months before cycle, tkx.

One other question that's been botering me, on my previous cycle i used sustenon@250mg/EOD is tehre any problem running it again or should i change the test?

Tkx for the help.

[SMAN12b]

I personally don't like Sust, but as long as you don't mind the EOD shots, it should be fine to use.
A single Ester works just fine too!!

[amazinspiderman]

OK.
Any other changes you would make to this cycle?
I also tought of adding d-bol at the begining but since i'll be using tren i don't know if i need it.
Now for the other part, PCT is figured out, i will be doing the Anthony Roberts protocol with slight changes. Used it this time and really liked it, no problems on recovery
But during cycle is it ok to use Nolva and Proviron at the same time? I was thinking running them both from week 1 to finish or start proviron @ week 4 (that's usually when i stsrt feeling some sides.)
Tkx

[amazinspiderman]

So, how do i do to frontload a test that has to be shot EOD?
And, is it ok to use nolva and proviron during all the cycle?
Tkx