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    Snipes warned IRS agents: Back off or face 'increased collateral risk'

    I liked him in the Blade movies, but he sounds like a stroke.
    Snipes warned IRS agents: Back off or face 'increased collateral risk'

    http://www.ocala.com/article/2008012.../BREAKING_NEWS

    (Updated at 7:30 p.m.) OCALA - After being indicted in 2006, actor Wesley Snipes sent a document to the Internal Revenue Service declaring he was a "nonresident alien" of the United States, refuting his Social Security number and warning that continued prosecution could lead to professional consequences for federal employees.

    Among other things, the letter claimed the IRS deceives people to "terrorize, enslave, rape or pillage" taxpayers.

    IRS Frivolous Return Program senior technical advisor Shauna Henline read excerpts of the document into the record during Snipes' tax evasion trial Thursday at prosecutors' direction.

    In the 600-page declaration signed by Snipes and sent Dec. 4, 2006, Snipes said he had "no ill intent or malice" and didn't want to evade any lawful requirement to pay taxes. But he went on to say the government had "no lawful authority to impose any kind of criminal sanctions."

    Snipes was indicted in a sealed indictment in April 2006. The indictment wasn't made public until October of that year.

    Snipes declared he had no taxable U.S. income, making the IRS Form 1040 "absolutely the wrong form for me to file." He also claimed taxes withheld were "stolen funds."

    He chastised the IRS and prosecutors, saying their position toward him was "simply false, fraudulent and misrepresenting."

    The document also warned the government's "illegal collection action" would result in "significant personal liability" for those involved.

    "Warning - pursuit of such a high profile target will open the door for your increased collateral risk," Snipes wrote. "I certainly don't believe this is in your best interest and can be avoided."

    Snipes lawyer Robert Barnes said the actor didn't intend to threaten anyone.

    "Not at all, not at all," Barnes said after court proceedings ended for the day. "A lot of it was very gentle."

    The document was born of Snipes' frustration in trying to deal with tax issues for years and as a reaction to being indicted, Barnes said, adding that Snipes sent a copy of the document to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

    "Part of his emotions are frustration, exhaustion," Barnes said. "The response was a 600-page letter. His whole point in the letter is, 'I've been trying to reach out to you guys for two years.'"

    Snipes and codefendants Eddie Ray Kahn and Douglas Rosile are charged each with one count of conspiracy to defraud and one count of aiding and abetting the making of a false and fraudulent claim as part of an alleged tax fraud scheme. Snipes also is charged with six counts of willfully failing to file federal income tax returns.

    Earlier Thursday, a letter from Kahn to Rosile showed an apparent rift between the two over money issues. Rosile had worked for Kahn's American Rights Litigators preparing tax returns, including Snipes'. For every tax refund that customers received, ARL was to receive 20 percent, with half of that going to Rosile.

    The letter, dated Jan. 14, 2002, accused Rosile of calling Kahn a "hypocritical Christian" who took advantage of Rosile. Kahn's letter said Rosile received every dollar he was due and called Rosile ungrateful."

    "We simply would not have used you for the work," Kahn wrote. "We would have hired another CPA or accountant that would have appreciated the opportunity we are offering."

    Rosile was once a certified public accountant, but his certification was revoked in both Florida and Ohio in the 1990s.

    IRS agent Kathleen Arth testified she investigated tax returns prepared by Rosile, including a large number citing the so-called "861 argument" that alleges American citizens don't have to pay taxes on money earned in the United States. Rosile made no effort to meet with her, even after she issued a summons compelling him to do so, she said.

    The trial could be over by the end of next week. Prosecutors said they will call their last witness Friday morning. Senior U.S. District Judge William Terrell Hodges agreed to let Snipes' defense team start its case Monday, citing scheduling issues with witnesses. Snipes lead counsel Robert Bernhoft said he expected the defense case to last a maximum of two days, followed by the government's rebuttal case.

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    Like I say, pay your taxes because they have all the guns and will force you to pay.

    IRS = Criminal orginization with no merit whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    Like I say, pay your taxes because they have all the guns and will force you to pay.

    IRS = Criminal orginization with no merit whatsoever.
    What set me back was how Snipes says that he is a "nonresident alien".

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    I've been trying to follow this case even with the lack of media attention... you'd think it would be huge... I hope he spanks their asses.... but alas I dont have alot of faith in the justice system to do their job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer View Post
    I've been trying to follow this case even with the lack of media attention... you'd think it would be huge... I hope he spanks their asses.... but alas I dont have alot of faith in the justice system to do their job...
    either Snipes did or did not pay his taxes, it really is not that difficult of a case.

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    hey... he protects us from enslavement of the vampires the least we can do is let him slide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexed View Post
    hey... he protects us from enslavement of the vampires the least we can do is let him slide
    Trying to protect us from the enslavement of the income tax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    either Snipes did or did not pay his taxes, it really is not that difficult of a case.
    I dont think that is the point he is arguing...It is becoming more widely known that there is no law that requires a person to pay an income tax. And, as discussed so many times previously, your income is not profits&gains, it is an exchange. So he is able to argue the Constitutionality of the alledged 'law.' IRS tax code is not enforceable if there is no legitimate law to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    I dont think that is the point he is arguing...It is becoming more widely known that there is no law that requires a person to pay an income tax. And, as discussed so many times previously, your income is not profits&gains, it is an exchange. So he is able to argue the Constitutionality of the alledged 'law.' IRS tax code is not enforceable if there is no legitimate law to back it up.
    The argument that he is putting forth says that he is a nonresident alien, and therefore should be subject to US taxation. Did you even read the article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    The argument that he is putting forth says that he is a nonresident alien, and therefore should be subject to US taxation. Did you even read the article?
    His argument is of the 861 nature pointing out the fact that if one were to establish the taxable undiscriminated revenue from personal venture it would fall to income(defined as gains from existing capital or games from things other then directly from wages)or as stated US citizens who reside here yet acquire wage from abroad or resident aliens who make wage from within the US... As specifically stated in the Tax code A us citizen whom makes only wages and an exchange for labor incurs no tax liability.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer View Post
    His argument is of the 861 nature pointing out the fact that if one were to establish the taxable undiscriminated revenue from personal venture it would fall to income(defined as gains from existing capital or games from things other then directly from wages)or as stated US citizens who reside here yet acquire wage from abroad or resident aliens who make wage from within the US... As specifically stated in the Tax code A us citizen whom makes only wages and an exchange for labor incurs no tax liability.....
    Can you show me where it states that, I have never seen that clause. The only issue that I have is with Income tax is not with the particulars of a vote from 100 years ago. I do take issue as to how "income" is defined in our tax system. Because of this, I have always attempted to get my income under a 1099 as this allows for the deduction of expenses incurred from the creation of this income.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...de_section_861

    Here it is section 861 of title 26 of IRS tax code is used to define "Gross Income"

    Although logan you will probably get railroaded if you try it everyone else does.....a few people got off though so you have a shot LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...de_section_861

    Here it is section 861 of title 26 of IRS tax code is used to define "Gross Income"

    Although logan you will probably get railroaded if you try it everyone else does.....a few people got off though so you have a shot LOL
    So in practise, the IRS has attempted to actually change the definition of Gross Income..........
    This is why I file under a 1099, as a 1099 is Gross Income, not net income.
    I am more concerned with Capital gains taxes and the damn AMT, which has kicked my ass over the past 4 years.
    Last edited by Logan13; 01-26-2008 at 03:49 PM.

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    Basically yes the IRS through "augmentation" of tax code has blurred the lines between what "income" and "wages" actually are.... so today we pay taxes on both lumping them into the same category "income" which is now mislabeled and misunderstood as to mean all gains from whatever source...as far as capital gains theres no loophole argument =P

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