HTPA suppression

[convalescence69]

Greetings,
Wanted to get an idea from the people here on what gear was the least suppressive to the HTPA? I've read the profiles, trying to find the ones that have the least effect on natural test production and are the easiest to recover from post cycle.

[N4cer]

Why? Just remember, the more effective the hormone is, the more suppressive it is.

[WilliamH.Bonney]

If you have read the profiles you would not be asking this question. I'll tell you right now the only conclusion you will come up with, when asking what steroid is least suppressive, is that a low dose oral cycle including Dianabol, Anavar, or Proviron is the least suppressive and easiest from which to recover. I will also tell you that unless you are a genetic freak and respond extremely well to androgens, you will see very little benefit from such a cycle and will pale in comparison to a proper injectable cycle.

Anything that is effective will undoubtedly be suppressive to your HPTA. So do yourself a favor and do three things. One, find out what AAS you will need to achieve your goals and stop focusing on what is least suppressive. Two, once you have figured out what you need to get to your goals, figure out how and if you can obtain the chosen compound(s). Three, research the letters PCT. You will recover fine if you do your research and carry out whichever PCT you choose.

[convalescence69]

If you have read the profiles you would not be asking this question. I'll tell you right now the only conclusion you will come up with, when asking what steroid is least suppressive, is that a low dose oral cycle including Dianabol, Anavar, or Proviron is the least suppressive and easiest from which to recover. I will also tell you that unless you are a genetic freak and respond extremely well to androgens, you will see very little benefit from such a cycle and will pale in comparison to a proper injectable cycle.

Anything that is effective will undoubtedly be suppressive to your HPTA. So do yourself a favor and do three things. One, find out what AAS you will need to achieve your goals and stop focusing on what is least suppressive. Two, once you have figured out what you need to get to your goals, figure out how and if you can obtain the chosen compound(s). Three, research the letters PCT. You will recover fine if you do your research and carry out whichever PCT you choose.

Indeed, I appreciate your response. My goals are met with milder substances, such as var, which I like very much.
The purpose of the post was to get a feeler out there if there is something i have missed. I was prior all natural bb and I broke down and tried Var and Tbol, having been quite happy with the results. However, I still have a penchant for all'natural. I am just seeking substances that toss a boost occasionally to break that genetic potential barrier. Var is perfect for my needs, being that it has lean gains, and even has its own LH rebound effect when coming off it. I was hoping there were other substances similar that perhaps I was unaware of that are like Var. I am interested in Clen as well to trim down and the profile shows there are also some gains, though nothing to write home about. Some guys want to gain 20lbs, I am fine with an additional 5-10, as long as it is quality. Var does that for me (but it hurts my wallet!). Thanks again for your response.

[WilliamH.Bonney]

Anavar is far to expensive to gain a measly 5-10lbs. I'm not sure what dosages of Anavar and Turinabol you were using. Let's say you wanted to do an Anavar only cycle at 80mg/day. You would pay five times more than if you were to do a twelve week cycle of Test E at 400mg/week (using typical market prices).

I guarentee you will be far more satisfied overall with the Test E cycle than you would with the Anavar Cycle. You will gain an easily retainable 10lbs of muscle mass and you will burn more fat than you would on the Anavar, for the simple fact you are on for six weeks longer. The side effects from the Test would be minimal to non existant, you will recover easy, and in the end you will have enough money left over to take out a nice lookin' heifer and suck a little tit.

[convalescence69]

[QUOTE=WilliamH.Bonney;3793757]Anavar is far to expensive to gain a measly 5-10lbs. I'm not sure what dosages of Anavar and Turinabol you were using. Let's say you wanted to do an Anavar only cycle at 80mg/day. You would pay five times more than if you were to do a twelve week cycle of Test E at 400mg/week (using typical market prices).

I guarentee you will be far more satisfied overall with the Test E cycle than you would with the Anavar Cycle. You will gain an easily retainable 10lbs of muscle mass and you will burn more fat than you would on the Anavar, for the simple fact you are on for six weeks longer. The side effects from the Test would be minimal to non existant, you will recover easy, and in the end you will have enough money left over to take out a nice lookin' heifer and suck a little tit.[/QUOTE]

Lmfao!
Well, some months back I acquired some var powder from china before that got all shut down. It was rather inexpensive that way.
In regards to the test E, I have seriously considered it, however, the things that turn me off about it: I am DHT sensitive and Gyno prone, so I would need many ancillaries (dutasteride, letro), then for PCT I'd have to worry about more injections of HCG everyday for a couple weeks along with Nolva and perhaps even Aromasin. So in the end, I have to get 4-5 other substances floating around in my system. If I am way off about this, correct me please, as I do hear a lot of great things about test E. If it was as simple as inject Test E once a week, Nolva ancillary, and then Nolva for PCT, I'd be all for it, but along with all the other stuff I'd have to take, the price would stack up pretty quick.

[juicenchris2989]

how do you know you are gyno prone?

[convalescence69]

how do you know you are gyno prone?

Hereditary mild gyno.

[WilliamH.Bonney]

If you are worried about gyno then you could use a small dose of Anastrozole along with the Test, a very small expense . There is really no need for Letrozole, as it will drop estrogen too low. However I doubt you will see many sides at such a low dose of Test. I'm not saying it is impossible to get any sides from that dose, just not as likely.

As far as products that will save your scalp, that is a personal choice. My personal philosophy is "I'm gonna lose it anyway, so I might as well be killer shape before I do." Besides that, one cycle will not leave you completely bald.

Your PCT does not need to include HCG. It is a luxury and not a necessity. Being your first real cycle Clomiphene should be more than sufficient to bring you back to normal.