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Thread: Cycle Ideas (Var/Tbol)

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    Cycle Ideas (Var/Tbol)

    Here is what I will have on hand shortly:

    25 20mg tabs of Tamoxifen Citrate
    300 10mg Anavar
    200 10mg of T bol

    Things I want to avoid in order of importance:

    -Liver injury
    -Shutting down natural own test too much

    and at the same time get the maximum benefit. I am a work out vet but a roid n00b. Here are some options I have considered:

    1) one big cycle with 60mg of var for 7 weeks and 40mg of T bol during same time + pct .. BUT I am worried since this is my first cycle it could be too much... other options:

    2) One 7 week cycle of Var.. then pct then time off.. then 7 week of T bol... advantage is that I would do a lighter substance.. then next cycle do something a little harsher in terms of T bol..

    3) Do the reverse and do T bol cycle first.. then Var later on.. good thing about this is my system can recover while using the var..

    4) do lower doses of both for two cycles.. wondering if the two together in lower doses has a synergistic effect which is better than each on their own..


    Basically I want to know what is a better option in terms of having lasting gains six months from now.... Which of the top choices would give me the best results in the long run.. Also willing to listen to other combos as long as it only contains my above inventory.


    OK, my stats below.

    Stats: 5'9 197 lean, 31 years old.. test low at 350
    Training history: 15 years solid, do both weight training, cardio and core training, judo
    Diet: Eat very clean and have for years, reached my genetic potential natually
    Cycle History: One small D bol cycle 11 years ago

    Goals: Harden up.. strength.. not too much weight gain.. quality lasting gains... no water retention, minimized side effects.. lose some fat... more shape.. retain cardio abilities and increase performance..

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    Keep it simple, since its your(so called) first cycle. Personally I would do the OT for 6 weeks at 40mg/d. No need to start combining until you know what it is going to you. OT starts to kick in wk 3 or 4.

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    OT = T bol right?

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    Thanks!

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    bump!

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    Anavar and Tbol is a good cycle. Anavar is really mild and not going to effect your liver unlike Tbol. You can run the Anavar for a few months easy.

    Both will shut you down... Im on Anavar and my balls are just lil guys.

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    How long did you use var? what kind of pct are you doing to restore your balls?

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