Help me prove 2 my Endo that low estrogen kills libido & HCG trtmt still needs test

[TGraham]

Greetings,
I am on test for TRT and asked my Endo for Arimidex because I had triple digit E2 levels. He gave it to me at 1 mg pill per day. I told him I'd use 1/2 pill 3 times per week so as not to crash my E2. He does not believe that men need some estrogen and that crashing your estrogen will kill your libido. Please help me prove this to him (mainly the libido part). I prefer info from medical journals or other doctors that do not sell treatments that require this assumption.
He also feels that if you take HCG there is no need for testosterone. Please help me prove this with solid sources as well.
Please be polite as I may refer him to this thread.

TG

[zaggahamma]

hard to find such hard data when arimidex for men hasnt been prescribed and/or studied as long...

he gave u a script for more than what you need so your g2g...with some to spare...dont toss it in da snow

let him take his estrogen to nothing and see for himself

[TGraham]

JPK,
Thanks for your reply. I am surely not complaining about having extra. He will let me keep the higher script either way. I'd just like to be on the same page as he is and vice versa. If he does not know these two things, it will be difficult.
He also said he saw no reason for HCG if on test as he believes HCG to be sufficient for raising test. He is pretty open to what he does not know (with good proof) so I need some solid ammunition.

[zaggahamma]

JPK,
Thanks for your reply. I am surely not complaining about having extra. He will let me keep the higher script either way. I'd just like to be on the same page as he is and vice versa. If he does not know these two things, it will be difficult.
He also said he saw no reason for HCG if on test as he believes HCG to be sufficient for raising test. He is pretty open to what he does not know (with good proof) so I need some solid ammunition.

i hear you...i research some but tbh most of my learning is based on posts and info from members and after seeing thousands you can take it as a type of research....not enough for a doctor to legally prescribe meds but you get a good consensus imo...so, ofcourse you cant just say some dude on the internet posted that hcg alone isnt enough to raise my test to an optimum level but if several thousand have posted this in conversations, etc....
idk, it's usually hard to get that (written proof)..esp with some of the newer protocols....arimidex usage in men, etc.

btw, youre e2 went up to the 100's? ON TRT? WHAT DOSE OF TEST?

[TGraham]

JPK,
That is exactly why I posted. I couldn't find anything but forum posts (enough for me).
My protocol is .5 ml of Delatestryl twice per week IM, & .5 Arimidex 3X per week. We didn't do E2 for my baseline score but I'm sure it was elevated. I drank pretty heavily and had wayyy sensitive nipples for years. E2 was like 110 after 8 months on test, nipples felt pretty much the same until arimidex. It is easier to get ripped now.

[flatscat]

When did you start the .5 adex three times a week?

[TGraham]

>When did you start the .5 adex three times a week?<

I'd say 3 to 4 months ago. Started on our sponsors Liquidex than got script.