Letro Or Not???

[wes cst rydr]

everyone says sumt different...im running d.bol 20 mgs ed..for 4wks,test e 250mgs x twice a week for 12 wks,,and deca 400mgs x 10wks....
NOW I DNT WANNA HINDER MY GAINS TO MUCH BUT IM RUNNING A (19 NOR)...I HAVE LETRO AND WAS GUNNA USE .25 MGS ED..IM ABOVE 15% BF SO I WANTED TO KEEP THE WATER OFF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TOO.I NEED SOME SOLID ADVISE...I ALSO HAVE NOLV ON HAND FOR PCT..

[wes cst rydr]

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[wes cst rydr]

bump...any one???

[evolution23]

you worried about gyno or bloat?

[mousetraps]

From my experience, letro cuts bloat down to zilch. beware of estrogen rebound though, so have some nolva on hand for "letro pct"

[Elexecution]

you need some estrogen or your gains will be dimished greatly... what you should look into is some bromocryptine or dostinex... those will keep gyno away and will not hinder your gains at all

[wes cst rydr]

From my experience, letro cuts bloat down to zilch. beware of estrogen rebound though, so have some nolva on hand for "letro pct"

yes i do have nolv on hand...last time i tapered the letro off n started pct with the nolvadex.

[wes cst rydr]

you worried about gyno or bloat?

IM WORRIED ABOUT BOTH..running the 19 nor so????

[wes cst rydr]

maybe i could get the best of both by running .25 eod instead of ed of letro?? idk.

[Merc..]

Have you seen this thread ??

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=estrogen


Merc.

[kfrost06]

Here what I do, keep on hand but don't use unless you need it. That is, if you show signs of gyno nd/or excessive bloat then start a low dose(0.25mg ED) and increase if necessary. At your levels you should be o.k. but it really depends on how sensitive you are to gyno.

[wes cst rydr]

(((usually my nips get a little sensitive for the first few weeks))) then it goes away..i think im gonna keep the letro on hand if i need it den take it...gyno just makes me nervous as hell!! ALSO I HAVE HYDROCHLOROTHIAZIDE ON HAND FOR GETN RID OF WATER IF IT GETS TOO CRAZY..

[wes cst rydr]

yah merc i read it erlier before asking...thnx. some actual expierence from both ways.

[mousetraps]

I never had problems gaining muscle while running up to 2.5mg a day...

[Wavelover]

I never had problems gaining muscle while running up to 2.5mg a day...

Really good of you with gyno reversal therapeutic dose.
What your stat ?
Does anybody would like to explain why he had gaining muscle while running up to 2.3 mg Letro/day ?

[Elexecution]

I never had problems gaining muscle while running up to 2.5mg a day...

i can absolutely assure you that you would've gained even more if you didn't run 2.5mg of letro every day

[evolution23]

IM WORRIED ABOUT BOTH..running the 19 nor so????

what i used to prevent gyno from deca and tren was vitamin b (its either 6 or 12) and it works well. do a search and find out about dosages.

[Merc..]

Check this study out..... Very interesting ... Ginkgo biloba lowers prolactin ...


Horm Behav. 2007 Oct 10; [Epub ahead of print] LinksGinkgo biloba extract enhances male copulatory behavior and reduces serumprolactin levels in rats. Yeh KY, Pu HF, Kaphle K, Lin SF, Wu LS, Lin JH, Tsai YF.Department of Physiology, College of Medicine, National Taiwan University,Taipei, Taiwan, ROC.

The aim of this study was to investigate the effects of Ginkgo bilobaextract (EGb 761) on male copulatory behavior in rats. EGb 761 (1 mg/ml)induced significant production of testosterone (T) in rat Leydig cells invitro. Its effects on sexual behavior were then tested in Long-Evans malerats after 7, 14, 21, or 28 days of oral gavage of vehicle (distilledwater) or EGb 761 at doses of 10, 50, or 100 mg/kg. Administration of 50mg/kg of EGb 761 for 28 days and of 100 mg/kg for 14 or 21 dayssignificantly increased intromission frequency compared to controls on thesame day. An increase in ejaculation frequency was seen after treatmentwith 50 mg/kg of EGb 761 for 14, 21, or 28 days when compared to eitherthe control group on the same day or the same group on day 0. A reductionin ejaculation latency was only seen after administration of 50 mg/kg ofEGb 761 for 14 days compared to the vehicle-treated group. After treatmentfor 28 days, no significant difference was seen in mount latency,intromission latency, serum T levels, reproductive organ weight, spermnumber, or levels of the metabolite of dopamine, 3,4-dihydroxyphenylaceticacid in the brain with any dose of EGb 761, but significantly reducedserum prolactin levels and increased dopamine levels in the medialpreoptic area and arcuate nucleus were seen at the dose of 50 mg/kg. Thesefindings show that EGb 761 (especially at the dose of 50 mg/kg) enhancesthe copulatory behavior of male rats and suggest that the dopaminergicsystem, which regulates prolactin secretion, may be involved in thefacilitatory effect of EGb 761.PMID: 18001735 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]


Merc.

[mousetraps]

i can absolutely assure you that you would've gained even more if you didn't run 2.5mg of letro every day

okay