In Season Cycle - Football

[Athleticly Declined]

Want to keep strength and speed for the full season, we don't get tested.

Running Test and Deca with nolva, vit b shots and ephedrine. (10 wks)
Trying lower doses this year to keep weight gain to a minimum.

Test at 250 (1cc) Deca at 150 (half cc).

Have Clomid and HCG for PCT.

[WARMachine]

Who recommended you run Nolva on cycle?'

Did you have an actual question btw?

[ironaddict69]

Shit Id run it higher. Your gonna be doing so much cardio the weight gains wont be insane but it should be ALL LBM gains if your diet is in check. Id drop the ephedrine too...ephedrine+football? Not a good idea IMHO.

A stimulant like that+stress of the field+ the high impact you'll be getting, It isnt like your using ephedrine and doing Pus$y cardio at the gym my man.

By the way. Have nolva on hand in case of gyno, but dont use it unless you must, it WILL reduce gains. Get nolva, and arimidex or aromasin for PCT, maybe hcg but thats all your choice, I would read a lot more before you start.

[Athleticly Declined]

Started Second week today.
Have the Nolva on hand, not using it unless necessary.
Can't cut the ephedrine, been using for years.

This is my 3rd cycle, have only used an Anti-E once for 3 weeks on much higher doses of test, but will keep an eye on it.

Flu like symptoms again, as has been common at start of cycles for me.

Training and Diet have been great, I don't drink or do drugs.

Should see some gains in next couple weeks.

[WARMachine]

Shit Id run it higher. Your gonna be doing so much cardio the weight gains wont be insane but it should be ALL LBM gains if your diet is in check. Id drop the ephedrine too...ephedrine+football? Not a good idea IMHO.

A stimulant like that+stress of the field+ the high impact you'll be getting, It isnt like your using ephedrine and doing Pus$y cardio at the gym my man.

By the way. Have nolva on hand in case of gyno, but dont use it unless you must, it WILL reduce gains. Get nolva, and arimidex or aromasin for PCT, maybe hcg but thats all your choice, I would read a lot more before you start.

Arimidex is a terrible choice for PCT. Combined with Nolva, they reduce each others effectiveness.

[ironaddict69]

Arimidex is a terrible choice for PCT. Combined with Nolva, they reduce each others effectiveness.

Oh then you might want to re-read my last line again then huh? You know, where it says OR.

[WARMachine]

Shit Id run it higher. Your gonna be doing so much cardio the weight gains wont be insane but it should be ALL LBM gains if your diet is in check. Id drop the ephedrine too...ephedrine+football? Not a good idea IMHO.

A stimulant like that+stress of the field+ the high impact you'll be getting, It isnt like your using ephedrine and doing Pus$y cardio at the gym my man.

By the way. Have nolva on hand in case of gyno, but dont use it unless you must, it WILL reduce gains. Get nolva, and arimidex or aromasin for PCT, maybe hcg but thats all your choice, I would read a lot more before you start.

I dont follow?

You say to get Nolva, and Arimidex or armomasin for PCT...

Why would there even be a "OR"?

Arimidex is avoided in pct because Nolvadex reduces the effectiveness of Arimidex. its okay to mix but Arimidex must be increased to make up for the loss. Which is pointless, youd be better off taking Proviron and Nolva.


And Nolva should NEVER be used during cycle even for gyno its too anti-catabolic, in that case, you should use Arimidex or if its too late and gyno is already there, Letro is the answer.

[Athleticly Declined]

Have gained 13 lbs thus far, its too much.
Have a lil bloat and am thinking of cutting the Deca.
Still no signs of gyno or even acne at all.

Might even cut the test down but I am already at only 250/wk, cutting further would be useless as i can produce similar naturally.
Don't want to eliminate the Deca because I find it helps my joints...

Will be hitting extra cardio at night and reducing caloric intake slightly. Am currently only consuming 4500 cal/day.

[WARMachine]

bloat is a side effect you will get if you do not take an AI on cycle when using Deca...

Thats why i advised you on it earlier and you still havent listened.

[Baron]

Want to keep strength and speed for the full season, we don't get tested.

Running Test and Deca with nolva, vit b shots and ephedrine. (10 wks)
Trying lower doses this year to keep weight gain to a minimum.

Test at 250 (1cc) Deca at 150 (half cc).

Have Clomid and HCG for PCT.

watever helps you play man, but id drop the ephedrine. Try using something like caffiene pills instead.

[ironaddict69]

ahh Id drop the stims completely!