Shed some light on this (tren a)

[sampson11]

Hey guys,

Ok I might be jumping the gun a little here but from what I have read about Tren A it's not doing it's job. Into week 3 now and am not getting much at all if anything. First thing that will come to mind for most of you is under dosed or fake, I have posted a thread in the Steroid picture forum titled "tren a ???? " so take a look for yourself at the gear but I have been reasured it's good to go. First 2 weeks @ 50mgs/ed and bumped now for a week to 75mgs/ed. The first week or so I had very very mild night sweats and insomnia but not even really worth noting and that seemed to of eased and now I feel compleatly normal, far from the "animal" feeling tren is surposed to give you. So this is my first time using tren and am wondering if there is another explaination apart from under dosed, do some people just not respond well to the compound or take longer than others to feel it's effects. Sorry for the novel lenght post but am a little lost as to what to do?

For those of you who what to know:

Current cycle:
Test P 75mgs/ed
Tren A 75mgs/ed
Proviron 100mgs/ed
Winny 50mgs/ed
Letro .25mgs/e3d

Age:24
Weight: 87kgs
Height: 179
B/F% 14

4th cycle, other compounds used: Sust, Deca, EQ, Test E and approprite PCT Drugs of course.

Cheers guys, any thoughts and advice is much appreachiated!

[BG]

Honestly I think theres bad powder going around. AT 75mg ed tren is the one compound you should know your taking.

Hows you libido and do you feel the other drugs? Strength gains, being reassured by someone that sold you gear doesnt mean shit, he doesnt test his powder so how does he know its good. SRCS was a huge loss.

[sampson11]

i was going to bump it to 100mgs/ed but it seems fcking crazy for a first time tren user. My start havent really changed since the start of my cycle. Previous cycles were test and EQ or test and Deca. This is a higher dose of anything than im used to so should be doing well. Been lifting for 5 years, really good diet, lift well and disaplined and yeah I think my body was conditioned to cycle.

[sampson11]

strength is going up but not as much as you would expect

[BG]

strength is going up but not as much as you would expect

Do you think your getting what you should be out of the prop?? It makes me horney as hell just a few days into it. What IM steering towards and I know you dont want to hear it is you have bad gear. PM me your source.

[sampson11]

To be honest no, I have changed the brand of prop I was using as I thought the first batch was no good ( I think you followed that post, might be mistaken) I did notice a difference as soon as I switched prop but horney as hell is not how I would describe it, I have a low sex drive as it is so I guess I feel about as horney as normal people do off cycle, ha. Will PM you.

[DS21]

I'm in a similar situation as you. I am on 75mg of Test P and Tren A ed, started at 50mg of each ed. I didn't really notice anything special, besides the sex drive increase, but nothing from the tren. I ended up going up to 100mg ed, but didn't really like the way it made me. I really thought I would hurt/kill anything that pissed me off, so I am just sticking with 75mg ed. For me, it isn't worth the extra strenght and aggresion in the gym, if I can't leave it there.

What I am getting at is maybe you should try 100mg ed, I do believe everyone tolerates drugs differently. IF you are getting a few of the syptoms it is probably real, and maybe underdosed. And since you already got it, you might as well use the amount that works for you.

[BG]

What I am getting at is maybe you should try 100mg ed, I do believe everyone tolerates drugs differently. IF you are getting a few of the syptoms it is probably real, and maybe underdosed. And since you already got it, you might as well use the amount that works for you.

So you saying just shoot more shitty gear just because you have it???

[binder]

Different people respond differently to compounds. Just like some people are allergic to test prop but others use it and it works great.

I think you would have noticed a difference by now being that it's 2 weeks. I noticed a difference taking tren the second day.

[Maverick_J8]

Doesn't it usually take a few weeks to really peak, even though it's/they are fast-acting?

I'm at the 1 week mark - Prop 100mg/day Tren 100mg/day - and still no crazy strength gains. Muscle fullness whilst in a deficit, and a few pounds up on the scale isn't nothing for me to be moaning about though.

[DS21]

So you saying just shoot more shitty gear just because you have it???

I thought it was obvious, but I guess not. If he is getting signs it is probably underdosed. In that case he should up it until he can handle the sides, or until he his happy with the compound. Underdosing seems to be a common practice with all drugs. Just because it says 100mg/ml dosen't mean it is, at least that is how I look at it.

[binder]

ah, the joys of home brewing....always knowing your dosages.

and what say you of that avatar girl?

[ReallyBigBiceps]

ah, the joys of home brewing....always knowing your dosages.

and what say you of that avatar girl?

assuming your powder guys are legit and dont send you cheaper powder that looks the same








can you put up a picture of your tren? 100mg/mL should be very dark golden

[WARMachine]

Should be feeling somethin by that point bro...

Same thing with the Prop or has it taken effect?

And whats with 100mgs of Proviron ED? Thats a seriously high amount and if you are already taking Letro, whats the point?

[BG]

I thought it was obvious, but I guess not. If he is getting signs it is probably underdosed. In that case he should up it until he can handle the sides, or until he his happy with the compound. Underdosing seems to be a common practice with all drugs. Just because it says 100mg/ml dosen't mean it is, at least that is how I look at it.

If you think you have bunk gear throw it away, save up and buy some human grade, pretty simple. Stupid to tell someone to just shoot more.

[DS21]

If you think you have bunk gear throw it away, save up and buy some human grade, pretty simple. Stupid to tell someone to just shoot more.

I don't want this to come off rude, but you sound like a moron right now. Human grade tren? Oh that's right, my doc just started injecting me last week. I think we all know what tren is used for, and it's not humans.

He is getting signs that tren provides, just not harsh ones, so that should cancel out him thinking his gear is bunk. This is why it lead me to believe it was underdosed. This is why I suggested to up the dose. Is that wrong? I know you've been here for a long time, and if you didn't already know, newer members can give okay advise too.

The one thing I would agree with you is if he does think it is fake he shouldn't use it.

[Amorphic]

Doesn't it usually take a few weeks to really peak, even though it's/they are fast-acting?

I'm at the 1 week mark - Prop 100mg/day Tren 100mg/day - and still no crazy strength gains. Muscle fullness whilst in a deficit, and a few pounds up on the scale isn't nothing for me to be moaning about though.

agreed. 3 weeks in though he should be in full swing. his gear sounds suspect

[firmechicano831]

I did a 30 day cycle or tren and I had great gains from it.

[Flex-Appeal]

I don't want this to come off rude, but you sound like a moron right now. Human grade tren? Oh that's right, my doc just started injecting me last week. I think we all know what tren is used for, and it's not humans.

He is getting signs that tren provides, just not harsh ones, so that should cancel out him thinking his gear is bunk. This is why it lead me to believe it was underdosed. This is why I suggested to up the dose. Is that wrong? I know you've been here for a long time, and if you didn't already know, newer members can give okay advise too.

The one thing I would agree with you is if he does think it is fake he shouldn't use it.

I understand what you are saying, as well as BG. You could of made your argument and left out the part about "a moron". We don't need to post insulting things like this. We are here to state valid points and help the OP the best we can.

[binder]

assuming your powder guys are legit and dont send you cheaper powder that looks the same








can you put up a picture of your tren? 100mg/mL should be very dark golden

mine is good....i tested it in a lab and it has been used on test subjects. I think you're asking for a pic of his gear. Mine is nice and golden brown (i like to call it burnt orange...lol.

I understand what you are saying, as well as BG. You could of made your argument and left out the part about "a moron". We don't need to post insulting things like this. We are here to state valid points and help the OP the best we can.

are you the police? your post didn't add anything to this at all....so you are posting non-sense just as much as someone you are trying to "correct" for making a correction to someone else.

[sampson11]

My thoughts on it is putting up the dose to 100mgs/ed is probably not the best option, I see where you are coming from DS21 but the little effects that it was having at 75mgs/ed seem to be completely disapearing which leads me to beleive that maybe one of the vials was under dosed but I was still feeling something but the new one/s I have are just fake. I'm going to get my money back for it and shop around for some more, up the shit out of the prop in the mean time. Still in Thailand there is no way to know if I'm just buying fake again, everyone told me that the gear I brought was good to go, guess you just cant really tell untill it's to late.

[korsow]

make yer own, dont use powder.. uhm yeah, nuff said..

[Amorphic]

make yer own, dont use powder.. uhm yeah, nuff said..

agreed. pellets are easy to get.

[BG]

I don't want this to come off rude, but you sound like a moron right now. Human grade tren? Oh that's right, my doc just started injecting me last week. I think we all know what tren is used for, and it's not humans.

He is getting signs that tren provides, just not harsh ones, so that should cancel out him thinking his gear is bunk. This is why it lead me to believe it was underdosed. This is why I suggested to up the dose. Is that wrong? I know you've been here for a long time, and if you didn't already know, newer members can give okay advise too.

The one thing I would agree with you is if he does think it is fake he shouldn't use it.

LOLOLOLOL I know tren isn't human grade, I said use human grade gear, if you did that with a proper diet you guys wouldnt need not be shooting a very hepatoxic nasty drug designed for cows to get results, plus you wouldn't be worried about if it were under dosed or bunk!!!!!!!!!!!! Dedicate yourself, grow up and you would realize you don't need tren. Next time you run tren, go see your doctor, tell him what your injecting and get some blood work done, sure he will tell you him yourself your an ass, I wont need to. .

[Maverick_J8]

you guys wouldnt need not be shooting a very hepatoxic nasty drug designed for cows to get results,.

I love you man.

[Roshambo]

Fifty milligrams per day is a good dosing for someone on his first cycle or someone who is as yet less than, say, 20 pounds over his natural limit; while 100 mg/day may be preferred by the more advanced user who has already gained more than this. To obtain good anabolism from non-AR-mediated mechanisms, a Class II steroid such as Dianabol should be used.
Also isn't Tren just the Chem name for Finaplix?

[DS21]

My thoughts on it is putting up the dose to 100mgs/ed is probably not the best option, I see where you are coming from DS21 but the little effects that it was having at 75mgs/ed seem to be completely disapearing which leads me to beleive that maybe one of the vials was under dosed but I was still feeling something but the new one/s I have are just fake. I'm going to get my money back for it and shop around for some more, up the shit out of the prop in the mean time. Still in Thailand there is no way to know if I'm just buying fake again, everyone told me that the gear I brought was good to go, guess you just cant really tell untill it's to late.

I didn't realize the effects where disapearing, I thought they where just minimal. How high are you planning on upping your test to? I know everybody is different, but I wouldn't go to high just because tren isn't involved. Test is great by itself.