frontloading test e

[fitguy]

how to frontload test e at the start of my cycle??i will be running test at 500mg and deca at 300mg...

[redz]

If you want to front load double your first 2 shots to build up the test in your blood quicke, so 500mg twice in the first week then go back to 250mg twice per week after. Run that cycle atleast 12 weeks. What do you have planed for pct?

[Dinosaur]

is this ur 1st cycle. what is ur status?

[fitguy]

well i have ran like 3 one which was a few years ago of test only,one stopped due to hairloss issues at 3rd week and last one stopped due to fake gear,this one is gonna be test e at 500mg12 weeks and deca at 300mg for 10 weeks along with hcg 500iu each week from the start of the cycle and nolva for 6 weeks 2 weeks after the last shot of test e...any opinions on that

[Dinosaur]

some people don't reocmmend using with 19nor nolva. however, if u know that u r prone to gyno u can use it from the beginning of the cycle all the way to the end. as far as pct goes u need clomid.
also u need to stop the deca 2 weeks prior to test e.

[hankdiesel]

This is basically your first real cylce then. You don't the the deca. 300mg is a pretty low dose anyways. If you stay on the test the whole 10-12 weeks you will blow up. Eat well and throw that weight around!

[AnimalGear]

This is basically your first real cylce then. You don't the the deca. 300mg is a pretty low dose anyways. If you stay on the test the whole 10-12 weeks you will blow up. Eat well and throw that weight around!

^^X2

goodluck

[Slin Ninja]

yeah bro, test alone does more than people think. sounds awesome to stack but you need to at least see how your body reacts to AAS for a whole cycle before adding in a secondary compound

[jstraw428]

some people don't reocmmend using with 19nor nolva. however, if u know that u r prone to gyno u can use it from the beginning of the cycle all the way to the end. as far as pct goes u need clomid.
also u need to stop the deca 2 weeks prior to test e.

He never said he was going to use the nolva during the cycle with the 19-nor.....he stated that he was going to run nolva for 6 weeks for pct, 2 weeks after his last shot.....Read brotha

You can stop the deca and test e at the same time, and take your nolva 2 weeks after last shot and be fine.....

[fitguy]

He never said he was going to use the nolva during the cycle with the 19-nor.....he stated that he was going to run nolva for 6 weeks for pct, 2 weeks after his last shot.....Read brotha

You can stop the deca and test e at the same time, and take your nolva 2 weeks after last shot and be fine.....

i have stated that i will be running the test e for 12 weeks and the deca for 10weeks i.e 2 weeks shorter than test e,thanks bro for pointing out i aint using the nolva through cycle one question though is 300mg of deca good to go or should i up the dose?

[THEMEATEATER]

imo I'd go 400mg deca instead of 300mg

[WARMachine]

If you are deadset on running Deca, include Aromasin in your PCT. And possibly hCG as well.

And i would agree with Meat, 400mgs is better...

[fitguy]

is it ok to run 300mg and up the dose if i felt like doing later on ?

[WARMachine]

No... Pick a dose and stick with it, keep your levels stable.

If you were doing Prop it wouldnt be a big deal, but Deca is long estered.

[fitguy]

when should i be seeing gains if i frontloaded it first week,also will it cause any more sides ?

[Dinosaur]

He never said he was going to use the nolva during the cycle with the 19-nor.....he stated that he was going to run nolva for 6 weeks for pct, 2 weeks after his last shot.....Read brotha

You can stop the deca and test e at the same time, and take your nolva 2 weeks after last shot and be fine.....

i said if he thinks that his prone to gyno.
as for the deca its always better to play safe so i suggested for him to stop the deca prior to test 1 to 2 weeks and i back it 100%.

[WARMachine]

Well although thats one way of frontloading (Redz way), its actually not the best way.

I can show you if you want?


Also, when frontloading you can start seeing gains quickly, although sometimes they wont be LMM, but instead possibly a little water weight.

[WARMachine]

as for the deca its always better to play safe so i suggested for him to stop the deca prior to test 1 to 2 weeks and i back it 100%.

I agree with this as well...

[fitguy]

how to frontload test e at 500mg per week?

[WARMachine]

weeks
1-14: test e 500mg wk






weeks
1: 500mg per shot (1000mg total)
2-14: 250mg per shot (500mg week total)





Finally, what seems to be the best way-
the first shot of cycle, shoot 2.5x the amount of every other shot
in this case 2.5x 250= 625mg
so this is

weeks
1: first shot 625mg, second shot 250mg (875mg total)
2-14: 250mg 2x a week (500mg total)





See?

[fitguy]

yeah thanks bro but well i may sound stupid but i just dont get it,lol

[rabidsquirrel]

i know people will hate me for this. i think frontloading is a bunch of crap. i did this cycle and didnt feel any different, except it was the first time i got test flu.

[WARMachine]

Ok... The first graph shows us what pinning 250mgs 2xw for the first week does.


The second graph shows us frontloading with 500mgs 2xW.

Finally the third graph shows us frontloading with 625mgs with the first shot, and 250mgs thereafter.

[WARMachine]

i know people will hate me for this. i think frontloading is a bunch of crap. i did this cycle and didnt feel any different, except it was the first time i got test flu.

Some people say they dont notice a difference...

Me personally, id rather kickstart with Prop.

[fitguy]

Some people say they dont notice a difference...

Me personally, id rather kickstart with Prop.

thanks bro i get it now

[fitguy]

was looking for some feedback about frontloading whats your experiences with it ?does it work or not?

[fitguy]

when should i be expecting the test to kick in when frontloaded?

[Charger527]

i frontloaded with double dose for the first week had good results kicked in around week 2. but i have never not frontloaded so i cant really compare.

[fitguy]

bump for more feedback on frontloading when does it kick in ?